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MissChief said:
Sorry but a very small drop in download and a 300kb increase in upload makes the Sky Router 'crap'?
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Yes the Sky Hubs are crap and they have the cheek to ask £69 + P&P for it.
For £69 you can get the Billion 8800nl delivered and it beats the Hub hands down.

One or two are using them on this forum and they are well pleased with the out come.

Its feature less they even say it has four high-speed ethernet ports 10/100 a good router has 10/100/1000 for WAN and LAN thats fast.

Wireless speed 2.4GHz thats old hat, why not dual band 2.4GHz/5.0GHz and look how many people complain about poor wireless performance.

No feature's like QoS for one the list goes on.

Normaly with the Hub if l had to reboot it a few times because your having problems. Your Down/UPload speed drops down and it takes age's for the DLM to get you back upto speed.

Sky job is to make money hence a crap router at a high price probably costs about £20 to make as its so basic. If it fails you have to buy another + P&P.

I wonder how many on Sky Fibre would swap out the Hub if Sky allowed it quite a few l think.

My 7800n after setting it up came in at 6742 the Hub has never given me a speed increase after rebooting it. Even my download speeds were better and more constant speed plus not going up and down like a yoyo.
 
OLDPHART said:
Yes the Sky Hubs are crap and they have the cheek to ask £69 + P&P for it.
For £69 you can get the Billion 8800nl delivered and it beats the Hub hands down. The price is similar to what other ISP's charge outside the warranty? Also does the Billion 8800nl have a VDSL modem built in?

One or two are using them on this forum and they are well pleased with the out come.

Its feature less they even say it has four high-speed ethernet ports 10/100 a good router has 10/100/1000 for WAN and LAN thats fast. I can't deny it but I regularly speak to customers who don't have anything connected via LAN, it's all Wireless. Most people will still use more devices wirelessly than wired and your average home user has no interest in a Home network setup with NAS or transferring files around.

Wireless speed 2.4GHz thats old hat, why not dual band 2.4GHz/5.0GHz and look how many people complain about poor wireless performance. We've been getting on about the poor wireless for ages now. Plans are afoot I believe to remedy this

No feature's like QoS for one the list goes on. Is there an ISP supplied Router that does QoS? A feature that 99% of Sky Broadband customers won't ever use?

Normally with the Hub if l had to reboot it a few times because your having problems. Your Down/UPload speed drops down and it takes age's for the DLM to get you back upto speed. I don't have to reboot mine very often but if I do I get the 40/10 straight away?

Sky job is to make money hence a crap router at a high price probably costs about £20 to make as its so basic. If it fails you have to buy another + P&P. 12 month guarantee like all their kit and like most kit you buy these days. I can't comment on pricing as I have no ideas about Sky's basic costs for the Router

I wonder how many on Sky Fibre would swap out the Hub if Sky allowed it quite a few l think. I'd estimate a few hundred at best. Out of half a million.

My 7800n after setting it up came in at 6742 the Hub has never given me a speed increase after rebooting it. Even my download speeds were better and more constant speed plus not going up and down like a yoyo. My speed is always very constant using the Sky Hub?
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OLDPHART said:
Yes the Sky Hubs are crap and they have the cheek to ask £69 + P&P for it.
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You seem to be confusing "crap" with a lack of features. It's fit for purpose and reliable in my experience. It's by far the most stable router I've owned, and I've been using them for 15 years. My Sky hub regularly goes a couple of months before invariably an Xbox live issue means I need to reboot it just in case. It's multitudes better than the older Netgear G routers.

Gigabit ports and AC wireless would be desirable features for the more technical users. 99% of Sky customers don't care, they just want to wireless connect their laptops, tablets and maybe their Sky+ box.
 
Fibre Pro ordered, should be activated in a week. Couldn't get any discount on the price of the Pro, but they gave me 50% off my line rental for 12 months.
 
Just a question based on extracting username/password for Sky fibre.

If I get it from my current Sky Hub on ADSL, will it then be invalid for Sky Fibre when it switches over?
 
MagicBoy said:
You seem to be confusing "crap" with a lack of features
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Look at the router's supplied in the early days of adsl supplied by Sky or other ISP's, l bet there were far less complate's them.

The 7800n I'v just installed downloads/uploads far better all round.

As for wireless less enough said about that, don't know how many RJ45 cable's l'v put for friends even just for the Sky Box for downloading films, etc.
 
OLDPHART said:
Look at the router's supplied in the early days of adsl supplied by Sky or other ISP's, l bet there were far less complate's them.
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You wouldn't be saying that if you used the Sky Netgear 834... :eek:

Mine never usually went more than four of five days without a power off reboot, because the WAN port stopped responding, the wireless had dropped or uPNP was borked. Standard process before a Xbox Forza race night was to reboot the router just in case.

The Sky hub just works.
 
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No issues with my Sky Hub at all here. Sure it may be missing some more advanced features but it works. From a support point of view having standard routers is the best bet.
 
Ah, they must be expediting it then.

And for what it's worth, my Sky Hub has been pretty reliable it just lacks some features and the wireless is a bit rubbish. I'm thinking of picking up a Billion 8800NL once my fibre gets activated, on the proviso that I can return it if it's not very good.
 
I like my RT-N66U because it allows me to VPN into my home network, I don't have that with my Sky Router, unless I set up port forwarding and host VPN internal which I don't really want to. Also, adding something to the reservation within DHCP shouldn't need a reboot lol.

I've already got my BT Modem so once it goes live I'll get wireshark on the go and set it up.
 
It depends on what sort of a Virgin area you are in, congested or not.

I've recently had Virgin in a supposed 'non congested area', and tbh at times it was shockingly slow, especially YouTube etc. Speedtests would show 160Mbit, but I struggled to stream 720p. I know there's DNS fixes and what not, but I found it a bit slow at times even though the speedtests would suggest otherwise.

When I had 40/10 Plusnet before it was better tbh, I'm hoping Sky will be good and I have no reason to believe that it won't.
 
Scottland said:
Ah, they must be expediting it then.

And for what it's worth, my Sky Hub has been pretty reliable it just lacks some features and the wireless is a bit rubbish. I'm thinking of picking up a Billion 8800NL once my fibre gets activated, on the proviso that I can return it if it's not very good.
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There's are few forum members using the 8800nl not heard any complate's about them.

l was going to get one but got a 7800n given.
 
So I have my pw and un for sky fibre. Got a brand new ac87u. But not sure where to place the pw and un.

I do connect the router to the BT open reach modem? And use the sky router MAC? or do I use the open reach Mac?
 
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