Skylake-X Lineup Leaked: i9-7980XE 18 Core Flagship Processor

N19h7m4r3 · 30 May 2017 at 13:22

Panos said:
The funny bit is that the lower end KabyLakeX doesn't even support quad channel ram. Only dual channel. There is point for them in the HEDT platform

They also have a higher TDP..112W!

What are they going on that socket? Especially the 4c/4t.

WingZero30 · 30 May 2017 at 13:22

Chuk_Chuk said:
Judging by how much info we have on the 10 core part vs the rest I think its fair to say that Intel never had any intention of offering more cores this year if it wasn't for ryzen. TBH if AMD had managed to keep a lid on all the leaks regarding threadripper I honestly think intel would have launched with a 10 core part being the top spec one.

Indeed. In Intel's original Skylake-X plans; 10 core was the main flagship model.

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GAC · 30 May 2017 at 13:25

Panos said:
The funny bit is that the lower end KabyLakeX doesn't even support quad channel ram. Only dual channel. There is point for them in the HEDT platform

yeah the lower end stuff is some sort of bizarre stop gap cpu line i think just to have them there. the more info i see on these the less i feel coffee lake will be a worthy investment come aug/sep as i bet come the next die shink (cannon lake??) we get yet another new socket and have to buy a cpu and mobo rather than just a new cpu unlike with am4 which is supposed to be around for a while at least.

N19h7m4r3 · 30 May 2017 at 13:41

Oh my...in Cinebench the Ryzen 1600 seems to be better clock for clock than the new 7800X.

Looks like AMD's SMT being better again in some multithreaded loads. Will be interesting to see what the single core performance is.

1600x @ 5445 MHz - 1837
7800x @ 5700 MHz - 1874

gavinh87 · 30 May 2017 at 14:09

N19h7m4r3 said:
Oh my...in Cinebench the Ryzen 1600 seems to be better clock for clock than the new 7800X.

Looks like AMD's SMT being better again in some multithreaded loads. Will be interesting to see what the single core performance is.

1600x @ 5445 MHz - 1837
7800x @ 5700 MHz - 1874

Oh dear

Caracus2k · 30 May 2017 at 15:37

GAC said:
yeah the 4 core is rather silly but what we have to remember is these chips are on a high end platform with all the bells and whistles you can think off, also it was brought forward due to ryzen so this is intel pushing stuff out faster as a stop gap, id expect a more rounded response sometime towards the end of next year, but id wait for coffee lake to see a more sensibly priced cpu v ryzen 1700 and 1800's. and yes thats if intel dont have a stroke and try charging too much.

it's not a 'high end platform' if you running 16 pci lanes, 4c/4t cpu and an effective dual channel memory controller with a non soldered IHS to boot!

what the **** do you think your playing at intel? A 4c4th overpriced cpu on the hedt platform! A crippled 8c/16t with 28 pci-e lanes for circa £600!

non soldered IHS's on circa £2000 CPU's....

so much fail intel.... So much fail.....

GAC · 30 May 2017 at 15:41

like i said the 4 core one is silly and is probably being released as they have it to hand just for the sake of trying to get people to buy it and then buy the bigger chips down the line. the fun thing will be come coffee lake that 4 core chip and even the 4/8 should be surpassed by a normal desktop cpu so id be totally baffled if anyone bought any of the lower core count cpu's on this platform.

DragonQ · 30 May 2017 at 15:46

It's a good point; a few people have already said it doesn't matter that the cost is high because you're getting a HEDT experience. Well, now there's no heatspreader solder, there's not many PCIe lanes on the lower-end chips, and quad channel memory isn't useful for 99.9% of applications. So what are people getting for that extra cash then? "Threadripper" TR4 will almost certainly undercut X299 on cost and since AM4 chips use solder, TR4 obviously will too. We don't know about PCIe lanes yet but it'll for sure be more than the 24 provded with Ryzen.

GTA767 · 30 May 2017 at 16:04

thats all good but what about release date or pre order date?

TheF34RChannel · 30 May 2017 at 16:46

GTA767 said:
thats all good but what about release date or pre order date?

26 June.

TheF34RChannel · 30 May 2017 at 16:48

N19h7m4r3 said:
Oh my...in Cinebench the Ryzen 1600 seems to be better clock for clock than the new 7800X.

Looks like AMD's SMT being better again in some multithreaded loads. Will be interesting to see what the single core performance is.

1600x @ 5445 MHz - 1837
7800x @ 5700 MHz - 1874

Could easily be immature BIOS; remember Ryzen...? I'm not worried. Besides, Cinebench always favours AMD. Immediate panic lol not necessary mate

Funny how here that SKU is again an i9 whereas on today's official Intel slide i9 starts @ 7900X and the two below are in (same as on their website).

gavinh87 · 30 May 2017 at 16:51

TheF34RChannel said:
Could easily be immature BIOS; remember Ryzen...? I'm not worried.

Funny how here that SKU is again an i9 whereas on today's official Intel slide i9 starts @ 7900X and the two below are i7.

Difference is that ryzen bios hasn't improved cinebench scores, only stability and memory compatibility

TheF34RChannel · 30 May 2017 at 16:53

gavinh87 said:
Difference is that ryzen bios hasn't improved cinebench scores, only stability and memory compatibility

I've updated my post just before you made yours; have a look

gavinh87 · 30 May 2017 at 17:02

TheF34RChannel said:
I've updated my post just before you made yours; have a look

Ah

N19h7m4r3 · 30 May 2017 at 17:05

TheF34RChannel said:
Could easily be immature BIOS; remember Ryzen...? I'm not worried. Besides, Cinebench always favours AMD. Immediate panic lol not necessary mate

Funny how here that SKU is again an i9 whereas on today's official Intel slide i9 starts @ 7900X and the two below are in (same as on their website).

It's listed as that officially on HWBot though.... it''s only once you click them for the "updated" page that it shows i7

There are two i9/i7 results, both the 7800X

http://hwbot.org/submission/3563169_

http://hwbot.org/submission/3563168_

http://hwbot.org/user/der8auer/

Gerard · 30 May 2017 at 18:33

N19h7m4r3 said:
It's confirmed, neither Kabylake X or Skylake X are soldered.

Intel yet again being incredibly cheap, amazes me how amd can do this with no problems despite being a much smaller company.

Blackbadger · 30 May 2017 at 22:17

Something is bizarrely wrong with those benchmark scores. 1874cb is terribly low especially for the clockspeed.

8 Pack said:
OrionX 24-7 Cinebench R15 figures.

That's 2430cb for a i7 6950 @ 4.6ghz real life use. - shows how much of a difference Ian's tweaking does.

Maybe I missed something ?

BRIGGBOY81 · 31 May 2017 at 17:46

Sem said:
This changes everything

i was nailed on to get one release day now i will wait and see for temps and OC headroom

FFS intel

Yeah absolutely, I was finally gonna retire the 4820k and whack in a 7820x, but now this might be the first time I go AMD.

Simon Belmont · 31 May 2017 at 18:15

BRIGGBOY81 said:
Yeah absolutely, I was finally gonna retire the 4820k and whack in a 7820x, but now this might be the first time I go AMD.

Then wait for Ryzen Rev2

zornyan · 31 May 2017 at 20:41

BRIGGBOY81 said:
Yeah absolutely, I was finally gonna retire the 4820k and whack in a 7820x, but now this might be the first time I go AMD.

the 7820x only needs to clock at 3.5ghz to be on par with a 4ghz 1800x, Intel has already said the 4.3 boost is an all core boost, and 4.5 is for two cores.

given skylakes faster architecture and higher clockspeeds you're paying basically £100 more for quad channel ram, and 20% more performance.

also, skylake x is different than skylake, they've quadrupled the l2 cache and changed some of the prefetching, apparently a 13% ipc gain over regular skylake due to less misses.