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Snow Sports 2016/17

Discussion in 'Sports Arena' started by richyfingers, Aug 22, 2016.

  1. jpaul

    Soldato

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    tom nieto - where do you get you insurance from then ? I had previously used annual membership to ClubAlpinFrancaise but apparently they do not do off-piste any more - otherwise I had seen 'worldwide travel insurance' which seem to be reasonable at ~£3 a day, and would not then bother to include it in the ski pass.

    even on piste invariably have a small rucsac too with spare gloves/drink/food - balaclava - tethered skis are useful too, off-piste, but afaik only have that on mountaineering skis.
    have never used a helmet yet - but they are there, more and more , inc USA ?
     
  2. tom_nieto

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    I have an annual travel insurance policy through www.insureandgo.com which covers large medical expenses, cancellation, personal items etc etc.

    The Carre Neige (www.carreneige.com) is specific to the ski resort (perhaps even France as a whole) and covers mountain rescue and evacuation and also some other bits and pieces. I think you could easily get away with just this if you're an EU citizen and have a valid E111 card. The advantage of the off piste in the 3 valleys is that the ski area actually covers everything in-between the resorts too so while you're not on a groomed run, you're not out of bounds unless you're very adventurous. Even then I think the insurance covers you. In all honesty I can't see why it isn't bundled into the ski pass cost anyway as it's a very small fraction of the overall cost.
     
  3. Adrianr

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    Hoping to do Banff in March next year. Anything I should know/do? First time in Canada, going with a group. Haven't decided if I'll ski or board yet.
     
  4. cheesyboy

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    Thanks, might look into those combo ones.

    Ultimately, I'll likely pick something quite cheap. Is an additional glove liner advisable?
     
  5. mid_gen

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    First time to France (Morzine) in Jan....ta, hadn't heard about this. Definitely worth it.
     
  6. jpaul

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    tom_nieto thanks for the insurance info/ref - interesting : a helicopter is only 1400 euros,
    and they refund the rest of your ski pass if you are carted away.
     
  7. Amp34

    Caporegime

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    Location: Canada

    AFAIK Carre Neige (the insurance policy) is available throughout France, not just the 3V?

    But yeah, I have partaken in that a couple of days, when venturing a bit farther than just off the side and between runs, which was covered by my usual insurance.

    Really wanted a pair of Hestras, but I just couldn't get on with them. I can't remember exactly why now, but I think it may have been because they have short fingers.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2016
  8. tom_nieto

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    Looked at the website for the first time earlier today and it would indeed appear to be for the whole of France. It's great value and I usually get it for the duration of my trip.
     
  9. Amp34

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    Location: Canada

    When you say "do" Banff, I presume that means you're going to stay in the town and visit the local resorts (Sunshine, Norquay and Lake Louise all fall under "Banff")?

    Norquay is very close to the town, about 10-15 mins drive but if you're not a beginner then you'll get bored in a couple of hours, it's very small and other than the runs from the North American chair (ungroomed blacks - both times I went last year the top was mix of gravel and snow) the runs are very short and easy, but there are a couple of steeper sections. Queues on weekends and holidays for the North American will be long and slow*

    Lake Louise is an hour away and probably the closest to the size of a standard european resort, with plenty of lifts and some stunning on and off piste (and scenery). My favourite resort I went to last year. The Back Bowl is nice and easy to ski and no need to hike for most of it, and even a few days after a dump you can usually find lines with fresh powder (especially straight off the back - mix of single and double diamonds). The Rock Garden is fun, but only do it if there's plenty of snow and you're not too worried about scratching your skis/board.:p

    Sunshine I haven't been to yet, but from what I've heard it's close to Banff, but once you factor in the gondola up to the main ski area it's about the same time as Lake Louise to "get" to. Also not great for snowboarders as theres a lot of flat sections apparently.

    There's also Nakiska which is about half an hour or so from Banff back towards Calgary (in Kananaskis), which is supposed to be a nice hill, less off piste and harder/icier runs - it's regularly used for racing competitions.

    Other than resorts there's the obvious, Lake Louise Lake (various long and short hikes around to viewpoints, next to the hotel, Banff hot springs etc.

    Food wise Sleeping Buffalo Restaurant is really nice, as is apparently the Grizzly House.

    *The lift was modified last year for pedestrians to get up to the restaurant at the top, which means it has a lot less capacity than normal lifts. It's also the only lift that services the more challenging terrain.
     
  10. Amp34

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    Just seeing your other post the only thing I would say if you were using that as your own insurance - make sure it covers medical evacuation back to the UK, rather than just to a hospital. Not sure how far the coverage actually extends. :confused:
     
  11. tom_nieto

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    Good point, does the E111 cover repatriation? In theory it should cover all medical expenses in the EU country that you're injured or ill visiting.
     
  12. Jokester

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    Repatriation isn't classed as a medical expense as far as I'm aware.
     
  13. jpaul

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    The worldwide ski insurance I had ref'd says no repat for the sake of it.
     
  14. Adrianr

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    Awesome, thanks for that. Yes sorry by Banff I mean Norquay, Lake Louise and Sunshine. One of the guys I'm going with has a place in the area so I'm guessing he knows a bit about it but always good to get other views. Sounds like Lake Louise will be my first port of call.
     
  15. rogan

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    Booked Andorra for the first week of march, didnt have much choice in budget this year unfortunately, but stoked to give andorra a try!
     
  16. zakjattaway

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    What resort in andorra are you going to? Been there twice and for value for money I have not at all been disappointed.
     
  17. rogan

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    Valnord! first time with the gf whos basically a beginner so should be fine i think
     
  18. timebomb26

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  19. zakjattaway

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    Nice. I have been there both times I went to Andorra. Would definitely recommend getting over to Arcalis at least once when you are there. Views over there are amazing and a lot more area. Also a really long green run that leads to an olympic ring (very flat though so prepare for a workout).
     
  20. rogan

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    we're staying off mountain a little bit and are a free shuttle to either Arcalis or Arinsal so we will get to do both which is cool. Really stoked now I've actually booked.. do need to start work on the old rusty legs though