Southport stabbings

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arknor said:
nothing says hes muslim though.

but yea, Muslim is not compatible with our society, we seem to be heading towards a Muslim country due to birth rates.

There will come a time when all our freedoms start to fade away and you might live to see it, you might even see Sharia law.

Sharia law might not even be a bad thing for "safety" tbh if they actually punish murderers etc but then a lot of people become basically cattle


I'm off the opinion a lot of people can not be reformed, they will never change and they shouldn't be given a second or third chance. our courts are laughable

In the news today an autistic 11 year old with a mental age of 2 who had been beaten by a teaching assistant for 19 minutes, only pausing the violence as other teachers walked past.... literally they must have realised what was happening and turned a blind eye, I bet they all kept their jobs too because there's no mention of them.
guess the sentence!


SUSPENDED,......




Guess what the judge said



WEIGHJT GAIN .... inability to secure employment.... anxiety..... whats this judge smoking?


Why does law see the attacker as a VICTIM? someone please explain that.... you can't surely? there's no logic?
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There's no prison places, the judge thought the offender wouldn't re-offend as they won't be aloud to work in places with vulnerable people again. It's probably a first offense and at 62 and overweight he's hardly a threat to the average man or woman in the street. That's my guess
 
Tech_Boss said:
Problem is the media and the left love to blame serious crime on mental health issues. They view it as some sort of justification / excuse for the perpetrators actions.

Criminals know this as well and play the mental health card to get a shorter sentence / sympathy.
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I'm sure someone might excuse it, but that's not why... if we can't find the root cause it will keep happening.
 
ANDREW GREEN said:
There's no prison places, the judge thought the offender wouldn't re-offend as they won't be aloud to work in places with vulnerable people again. It's probably a first offense and at 62 and overweight he's hardly a threat to the average man or woman in the street. That's my guess
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This is why we need to bring an adult version of corporal punishment back, especially the humiliation kind.
 
BowdonUK said:
This is the problem when mental health is mentioned. It can remove responsibility from an evil person. Because acts of evil aren't normal.

In my "special school" there were people with mental health conditions. All of them knew right from wrong.

I think the mental health card is thrown around to quickly without much thought for the increased stigma it gives to people with mental health conditions. I know from personal experiences "the normies" will assume the worst in initial perception until proved otherwise. It is slightly easier for me with a visible disability to overcome most negative stereotypes. I can imagine it's a lot more difficult for people with hidden disabilities.
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I don't think anyone is attempting to remove responsibility by saying they have mental health problems. To rise to the point of that person can't be held responsible for their actions they have to be very seriously mentally ill, even then they are still going to be locked up for the publics safety.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
I don't think anyone is attempting to remove responsibility by saying they have mental health problems. To rise to the point of that person can't be held responsible for their actions they have to be very seriously mentally ill, even then they are still going to be locked up for the publics safety.
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Problem is people with mental health problems are extremely vulnerable to extremism.
If he was known to MI6 and had mental health problems he should have definitely been locked up.
I remember reading somewhere that there is something like 30 000 people on extremist watchlist, that's a huge number to keep track of.
 
the shadow said:
If ever there was a good reason to start a GoFundMe it would be for this tragedy.
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I'm not convinced it needs money, maybe a few K for a mural or something sure.


but theres no point raising hundreds of thousands or whatever for the sake of it.

Taylor swifts team are probably already offering support etc to the families/children I'd imagine.
yes I know shes not involved directly.
but apparently her/her team are aware of it on twitter, and unless your evil you'd likely reach out with support of some kind, since the event was themed around her and those involved are likely "fans"
 
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BowdonUK said:
This is why we need to bring an adult version of corporal punishment back, especially the humiliation kind.
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Seems a rather silly approach.
If you have someone who may have mental issues public humiliation is unlikely to help that situation over a period of time.
I mean often the motivation for people committing horrible offences is that previously they have felt humiliated, they seek retribution.

We used to send them to Aus, maybe we should do something similar now.
Falkland islands seem a worthy candidate.
Make it a bit hunger games, drop "them" off once a month, air drop in some basic provisions every other week.
Patrol boats just in case anyone looks to make their way off, other than that, let them get on with it.
 
robj20 said:
Afraid money won't fix this. Best they could do was donate it to Alder Hey.
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Money can go a long way to help families after something like this. I don't know how long it would take me to get back to work, so I'd be relying on savings or the hope that my employer would continue to pay me.

Anything that takes away the extra stress is a help.
 
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