Spanish Grand Prix 2012, Catalunya - Race 5/20

This is Hamilton we are talking about, and it is also spain. He is probably going to start from the back or something stupid like that
 
It does explain a considerable portion of the margin by which he took pole, doesn't it?

I don't think he'll face a penalty, but they could view as unsportsmanlike behaviour.

The only rule I can find is this:



Qualifying is not a practice session so that doesn't apply.

Qualifying is classed as a practice session.

If you remember when the new teams 1st entered, Chandhook was allowed to take part in the race because he has been in 1 practice session i.e qualifying

Hamilton could lose plole - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18047760
 
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If you remember when the new teams 1st entered, Chandhook was allowed to take part in the race because he has been in 1 practice session i.e qualifying

Yes, although nobody seemed to realise that. I was yelling at the TV when he was stood there out of his race suit before the session! :mad:
 
Just watched Quali, my brain is failing to compute what happened.

If McLaren stopped Hamilton because he was underfueled then they are ******* idiots. McLaren are the reason the fuel rule exists, so they can hardly claim ignorance. Its also impossible to think such a top team could do that by accident.

But then it could be another issue entirely that they don't want to talk about yet.
 
Just watched Quali, my brain is failing to compute what happened.

If McLaren stopped Hamilton because he was underfueled then they are ******* idiots. McLaren are the reason the fuel rule exists, so they can hardly claim ignorance. Its also impossible to think such a top team could do that by accident.

But then it could be another issue entirely that they don't want to talk about yet.

If it turns out it was done on purpose, heads should roll at Mclaren. They are currently the team that consistently mess everything up.
 
If McLaren stopped Hamilton because he was underfueled then they are ******* idiots. McLaren are the reason the fuel rule exists, so they can hardly claim ignorance. Its also impossible to think such a top team could do that by accident.

Could have been a fuel rig problem.
 
I give up on formula 1 and im not watching the race tomorrow if Hamilton gets stripped of his Pole.

The whole sport is descending into a farce.
 
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They are currently the team that consistently mess everything up.

They have been doing it for years. The corporate style 'decisions by committee' approach they have doesn't fit with the gut feeling split second strategy calls that are needed in F1.

But we could be jumping the gun, we need to wait for more details.
 
I give up on formula 1 and im not watching the race tomorrow if Hamilton gets stripped of his Pole.

The whole sport is descending into a farce.

Uh, what?

Its a rule. If they broke it they get penalised? How is that in any way Formula 1 'decending into a farse'?
 
Uh, what?

Its a rule. If they broke it they get penalised? How is that in any way Formula 1 'decending into a farse'?

"Whitmarsh said 1.3 litres of fuel were taken out of the car, and that this was enough to get the car back to pits with enough fuel left to provide a sample. "

Therefore what advantage have Hamilton/Mclaren gained?
 
I give up on formula 1 and im not watching the race tomorrow if Hamilton gets stripped of his Pole.

The whole sport is descending into a farce.

Dunno... if McLaren can't provide a reasonable explanation then the only conclusion one can draw is intentional under-fueling which is against the rules.

If anything, it would be more farcical not to penalise him, although the level of punishment could be questioned.

Just think about how much controversy there is in football with the inconsistent application of the rules, it's rife in other big sports too, not just F1.
 
"Whitmarsh said 1.3 litres of fuel were taken out of the car, and that this was enough to get the car back to pits with enough fuel left to provide a sample. "

Therefore what advantage have Hamilton/Mclaren gained?

He'll need to prove that, which most people think will be very difficult.
 
"Whitmarsh said 1.3 litres of fuel were taken out of the car, and that this was enough to get the car back to pits with enough fuel left to provide a sample. "

Therefore what advantage have Hamilton/Mclaren gained?

Yes, well done, you can read.

However, the regulations state the car must be driven back to the pits. If it wasn't there needs to be a good reason for not being able to. Thinking you are running out of fuel and stopping but then finding out you would have had enough is not a good reason.

If this is what McLaren did they will get penalised.

Its the rules. I don't see how F1 applying its rules can be seen as a farse?
 
Its the rules. I don't see how F1 applying its rules can be seen as a farse?

Because they rarely do! They just seem to pick and choose what rules they enforce and which they don't sometimes.

Besides, why did you assume I was only annoyed with the FIA?

Maybe, seen as I support Mclaren, I am fed up with them consistently screwing things up.

These things, a long with the tyre situation being a mess, is just making it difficult to feel that excited about F1 anymore.
 
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So what should they do if McLaren are found to have underfueled and stopped on track because of it?

Depends on whether they had underfueled him intentionally or not and whether or not he gained any advantage in them doing so.
 
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