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Hamil panned the film as much as he could contractually get away with.
Star Wars VIII : The Last Jedi [WARNING: SPOILERS]
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You can certainly make it look that way by editing the hell out of clips and misrepresenting them in YouTube.
Anyway, Hamill himself has mental ideas about what they should have done with his character in both the original trilogy and the sequels.
In ROTJ he petitioned George Lucas to make Boba Fett his mother...
And for the new Star Wars movie he wanted to play his own evil twin
Anyway, Hamill himself has mental ideas about what they should have done with his character in both the original trilogy and the sequels.
In ROTJ he petitioned George Lucas to make Boba Fett his mother...
And for the new Star Wars movie he wanted to play his own evil twin
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Yeah i seen that interview, the evil twin was the clone of the hand he lost in cloud city. As insane as that sounded it would still have been better than than what we got here.
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Was about to say - Boba Fett reveal as a woman (of any kind, character's mother or otherwise) would be much better than his fate and final appearance in ROTJ whereas evil twin idea beats just about anything in new trilogy, in fact, for all Ryans ideas - a device for TLJ where Kylo Ren is Snoke's authored clone/twin of otherwise still good and alive (THE Last Jedi) Ben Solo would save not only the whole concept of canon continuity (we could still have "Skywalker's saga as seen through the eyes of droids") but also provide better plot arc that what we got.
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Bobba Fett as a purple rinse granny would actually have been pretty good.
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I watched a video on YouTube about the Disney Death Mark. Basically they were saying to look at the merchandise.
Disney released "Black Line" toys that were supposed to be collectables but they're a dime a dozen everywhere. Toy stores are chocolate full of clearance figures, Rey in particular is a character that nobody wanted.
Disney has always had it's Princesses and that's fine, my own little girls have plenty of Disney dolls and figures that they enjoy, but Star Wars has always been more of a little boy's thing. The Original Trilogy are as much a tale of a boy becoming a man as they are a grand space opera and that is most definitely part of it's attraction.
Disney have thrown all that into the dustbin and that can be seen with the merchandise. Little boys aren't buying Rey dolls and whilst casual fans are enjoying a day out at the cinema I'll be interested to see how DVD / Blue Ray sales perform.
Disney released "Black Line" toys that were supposed to be collectables but they're a dime a dozen everywhere. Toy stores are chocolate full of clearance figures, Rey in particular is a character that nobody wanted.
Disney has always had it's Princesses and that's fine, my own little girls have plenty of Disney dolls and figures that they enjoy, but Star Wars has always been more of a little boy's thing. The Original Trilogy are as much a tale of a boy becoming a man as they are a grand space opera and that is most definitely part of it's attraction.
Disney have thrown all that into the dustbin and that can be seen with the merchandise. Little boys aren't buying Rey dolls and whilst casual fans are enjoying a day out at the cinema I'll be interested to see how DVD / Blue Ray sales perform.
I found it weird that most of the alien scenes seemed human. A human looking casino, horse racing etc. It was all too cgi'd and not Starwarsy, like the Cantina scenes of old. (I know the Huts are essentially gangsters and not rich casino dwellers etc) That's how I felt Disney had gone to far with it. Like the fish people and the Disney wide eyed puffin things.
Since day one of the new series I've hated Fins character, he spoils the whole saga with his over the top acting and shouting. It's not cool calm and collected anymore.
Rey was never something I enjoyed either.
Thing is I don't begrudge any of the writers or directors. They had an impossible task. Only a solid gold stroke of luck could make the perfect sequels. Was never gona happen.
Since day one of the new series I've hated Fins character, he spoils the whole saga with his over the top acting and shouting. It's not cool calm and collected anymore.
Rey was never something I enjoyed either.
Thing is I don't begrudge any of the writers or directors. They had an impossible task. Only a solid gold stroke of luck could make the perfect sequels. Was never gona happen.
I would be very interested to see what the original Kasdan script was before Rian Johnson binned it. I suspect it would have flowed better and actually had some kind of connection with Force Awakens.
I watched this today with my 11 year old son. He loved it. But I'd give it a 7/10 as a general sci fi movie and only a 6/10 as a Star Wars film. There were just too many inconsistencies within the Star Wars universe and continuity issues in the the film itself. It didn't feel like Star Wars at all.
Mark Hamill and Adam Drivers performances were good (I hated Drivers acting in ep 7).
...also too much forced humour. Every studio seems to be trying to copy GoTG and Deadpool.
Mark Hamill and Adam Drivers performances were good (I hated Drivers acting in ep 7).
Luke's ending was disappointing. He never really tried to fight. But I guess it was the only way they could kill him off without him being beaten by someone else.
No-one was surprised that Luke seemingly hid in the cave and then came out when needed (I know he wasn;t really hiding there).
It was just too convenient to have a spare fortified base nearby when the needed it.
A fortified cave with just a few rocks on their back entrance? Also one that BB-8 checked and confirmed there was no back entrance to? Where did that come from?
If there was no way out and they were trapped, then how did they all suddenly get outside and start defending from trenches? Couldnt they have just scattered and run away instead?
If hyperspace tracking was so new then why was it possible for them to have a normal tracker for rey to find them (on a little arm band, which had the power to transmit across the galaxy)?
When Rey was in the cave looking at herself she should have been soaking wet. But her reflections weren't. What was the point of that scene? It didn't add anything.
When the First order were firing cannons at the escaping transporters why did their "shells" have to be fired in an arc? There is no gravity in space.
How the hell does BB-8 tie up soldiers and climb into a walker?
If Snork could read every part of Kylo Ren's mind then why didn't he know he was about to kill him?
Snork's story wasn't revealed at all. Who the hell was he anyway and how did he rise to power?
Why wasn't Finn's speeder destroyed as soon as it went into the path of the siege cannon while it was firing?
How can anyone, even a Jedi, survive in the vaccuum of space?
When they let Leia back onto the ship after she somehow survives when why isn't the air sucked out of the corridor when they open the door? I assume the normal air lock entrances have some kind of shield over them to prevent it, but a normal corridor door wouldn't.
I can't remember the character's name now. But the senior female officer (who announced to the crew that Leia was unconscious and the Vice Admiral would take over) was on the bridge with Leia seconds before the bridge was destroyed. How did she survive?
Why did those horse things smash through windows and walls instead of running around them? That's not normal behaiour for any animal.
Every senior officer was a woman. It's great to see more of a balance... but all of them???
If Rose Tico was so good at everything then why was she just a janitor (or whatever she was). She could pilot speeders and space ships so why ws she being wasted in such a basic job?
Luke was just so wasted in this film.
No-one was surprised that Luke seemingly hid in the cave and then came out when needed (I know he wasn;t really hiding there).
It was just too convenient to have a spare fortified base nearby when the needed it.
A fortified cave with just a few rocks on their back entrance? Also one that BB-8 checked and confirmed there was no back entrance to? Where did that come from?
If there was no way out and they were trapped, then how did they all suddenly get outside and start defending from trenches? Couldnt they have just scattered and run away instead?
If hyperspace tracking was so new then why was it possible for them to have a normal tracker for rey to find them (on a little arm band, which had the power to transmit across the galaxy)?
When Rey was in the cave looking at herself she should have been soaking wet. But her reflections weren't. What was the point of that scene? It didn't add anything.
When the First order were firing cannons at the escaping transporters why did their "shells" have to be fired in an arc? There is no gravity in space.
How the hell does BB-8 tie up soldiers and climb into a walker?
If Snork could read every part of Kylo Ren's mind then why didn't he know he was about to kill him?
Snork's story wasn't revealed at all. Who the hell was he anyway and how did he rise to power?
Why wasn't Finn's speeder destroyed as soon as it went into the path of the siege cannon while it was firing?
How can anyone, even a Jedi, survive in the vaccuum of space?
When they let Leia back onto the ship after she somehow survives when why isn't the air sucked out of the corridor when they open the door? I assume the normal air lock entrances have some kind of shield over them to prevent it, but a normal corridor door wouldn't.
I can't remember the character's name now. But the senior female officer (who announced to the crew that Leia was unconscious and the Vice Admiral would take over) was on the bridge with Leia seconds before the bridge was destroyed. How did she survive?
Why did those horse things smash through windows and walls instead of running around them? That's not normal behaiour for any animal.
Every senior officer was a woman. It's great to see more of a balance... but all of them???
If Rose Tico was so good at everything then why was she just a janitor (or whatever she was). She could pilot speeders and space ships so why ws she being wasted in such a basic job?
Luke was just so wasted in this film.
...also too much forced humour. Every studio seems to be trying to copy GoTG and Deadpool.
Soldato
I don't get it, since you didn't liked anything, why you are so generous with the score giving 6/10?
True. On Attack of the Clones, when they go into the bar the screens were full of futuristic games like pod racing, some type of animal foodball, etc.
Nothing to feel like "today".
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Just got home from this, I'd seen zero trailers and haven't seen any reviews or any spoilers or anything about it whatsoever. I wanted to go into it with no preconceptions at all.
Loved it, absolutely loved it. The time flew past, it really didn't seem like nearly two and a half hours had passed.
I grew up with Star Wars and watched all the original films at the pictures. The three prequels were utter garbage. This was excellent. I don't over analyse stuff, I just saw a film which I really liked.
Thumbs up from me, Mrs. Feek and YMF.
Loved it, absolutely loved it. The time flew past, it really didn't seem like nearly two and a half hours had passed.
I grew up with Star Wars and watched all the original films at the pictures. The three prequels were utter garbage. This was excellent. I don't over analyse stuff, I just saw a film which I really liked.
Thumbs up from me, Mrs. Feek and YMF.
Each to their own, it's not within anyones right to say your wrong, I am just curious about a few things and your thoughts.
You say over analyse. I admit I have nit picked finer details, but I wonder about the larger more obvious aspects of the film. For instance how did you feel about the opening of the film where Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder. I felt this set a tone for a slap-stic comedy aspect, something quite jarring considering that Luke has been set up to be a Hero character. Followed by the milking of a sea cow and the fish people. How did you feel about that within the context of all the previous films? It didn't bother you?
Caporegime
I know this was directed to Feek, but I didn't mind.
It was unexpected but within the context of what he was meant to be, a guy who hid away from the universe and don't want anything to do with the past and left it all behind. It was justified even.
The way to see it that was wrong is if you think that the ROTJ happened yesterday.
I agree, it was unexpected but I also didn't think Luke was set up to be a hero character, they have always said this is about the new characters. It was also alluded to that he was not in the best state of mind in TFA.
He is an old broken man and we find out why later on in the film. It makes sense in the plot of the film and is a very plausible scenario given what we find out later in the film. This is what 30 years after the events of ROTJ? A lot can change in that amount of time to a person.
Caporegime
That lightsaber to him is a symbol of the past, a past that he ran away from, a past that he didn't want any part of, a past that he didn't want to see again, t past that now been handed to him out of the blue from a totally random stranger.
Go away!
That's his reaction and that's what he did.
Go away!
That's his reaction and that's what he did.
For me and anyone I know the opposite is the case. The new Star Wars movies have been a let down. The only one we kind of liked is Rogue One.
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Rogue One stands head and shoulders above the third trilogy. Apart from the timeline being too short it was hitting all the right notes with respect for the core material.
I get that but
Why leave a very convoluted cryptic treasure map to himself. It contradicts the situation and the plot points in the last movie. The whole experience imo was bizzare and was more in line with a sketch in a bad comedy rather than SW.
Caporegime
The map comes under “don’t think too hard” category.
Caporegime
the map doesn't make sense whether he wanted to be found or not. That whole thing was just a huge **** up by J.J.
Also you don't need to use spoilers any more, it's the new year.
Also you don't need to use spoilers any more, it's the new year.