You're right, just checked - planet, droid, structure etc shields have greenish/blue hue, but landing bays etc seen from the inside don't, they just have a glow around entrances, only in games they had a hue (I suppose for players benefit) - so yeah, totally overthought, over analysed, one less Paige bug.
Star Wars VIII : The Last Jedi [WARNING: SPOILERS]
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You're right, just checked - planet, droid, structure etc shields have greenish/blue hue, but landing bays etc seen from the inside don't, they just have a glow around entrances, only in games they had a hue (I suppose for players benefit) - so yeah, totally overthought, over analysed, one less Paige bug.
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In the 80's there wasn't really a way to show the shields.
I'm sure in EOS they have to drop their shields to fire the ION cannon to disable the Star Destroyer, allowing the Transports to escape the planet without being blown up.
I mean, if you pick that apart why did the Empire with it's infinite resources only send one star destroyer to Hoth?
I'm sure in EOS they have to drop their shields to fire the ION cannon to disable the Star Destroyer, allowing the Transports to escape the planet without being blown up.
I mean, if you pick that apart why did the Empire with it's infinite resources only send one star destroyer to Hoth?
That's a thing, back in TESB resources were finite (at least in terms of ships diverted per single spy drone report) even for something as big as Galactic Empire, it's only in TLJ that we encounter group of effectively marauders, space corsairs, that just keep pulling fleets and technologies from their alien intestine outlets as if they costed nothing. Blow their planet sized weapon few days earlier, destroy most of their troops in the process, have their main leader killed - doesn't matter, they still have new tech, new , bigger, better ships full of fresh storm troopers and so on.
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I saw the Disney connection. Clearly it was Fin McMissle to get back from that crash site to the cave in any sort of relevant time line past the Luke laser wall.
I have and i wanted to like this movie so much. The second time around reaffirmed my impressions on the movie. As a stand alone scifi movie it was ok but as a Star Wars movie it was awful. It was the worst one yet imo. As many has touched we have learned nothing about the story and the plot points have all been wiped out (literally).
Unless in the next part they do something extremely clever to recover the situation (which is highly unlikely) then like the theme of TLJ it could all go out with a whimper rather than a bang which would be such a waste.
I'm with the group that thinks TFA was pretty bad (not prequel bad, but still bad), and whilst TLJ isn't great, it was at least marginally better (which is why I don't care about them throwing away TAF plot-points).
I thought Rogue One was excellent, but I think I am done with SW in general. If I do see the last one at the cinema, it will most certainly be a 2-for-1 offer
I thought Rogue One was excellent, but I think I am done with SW in general. If I do see the last one at the cinema, it will most certainly be a 2-for-1 offer
I have no love for TLJ, and after having watched the prequels pretty recently I am of the opinion that they are more entertaining in pretty much every respect.
Some of you will tune out here.
Ok the acting in the prequels was awful (and Driver and Ridley were pretty good in this one), but at least there was always some form of 'money shot' scene in each of them. Something memorable for the right reasons. Sequences that I will happily go onto Youtube to rewatch and enjoy.
-Darthmaul vs Kenobi and Qui Gon
-Pod Race
-Yoda, Kenobi and Anakin vs Dooku
-Windu vs Fett
-Kenobi vs Fett
-Anakin, Kenobi vs Dooku
-Windu vs Palpatine
-Kenobi vs Anakin
-Yoda vs Palpatine
(granted, most of these involve a lightsabre)
These are sequences that I do enjoy to watch. I cant remember one scene from TLJ at all (I personally thought the Snoke and Red Lobster guy fight was awful).
I would have loved to have liked this movie, any excuse to like Star Wars is a good excuse, but I cant seem to get over some of the major issues that have been already discussed heavily in this thread.
The treatment of Luke has been argued from both sides, and rightly so, who am I to tell Disney and Johnson how to treat and respect this character. He felt so out of place though, almost comical in the same vein as the Vader 'NOOOOO' sequences. A response completely at odds to how I perceive the character.
Will I go and watch episode IX.....of course....its Star Wars and like a battered housewife I will be back.
Rogue One was an example of how Star Wars should be done..........after this and the heavily covered issues with the production of Solo.....expectations are at an all time low for me now.
Some of you will tune out here.
Ok the acting in the prequels was awful (and Driver and Ridley were pretty good in this one), but at least there was always some form of 'money shot' scene in each of them. Something memorable for the right reasons. Sequences that I will happily go onto Youtube to rewatch and enjoy.
-Darthmaul vs Kenobi and Qui Gon
-Pod Race
-Yoda, Kenobi and Anakin vs Dooku
-Windu vs Fett
-Kenobi vs Fett
-Anakin, Kenobi vs Dooku
-Windu vs Palpatine
-Kenobi vs Anakin
-Yoda vs Palpatine
(granted, most of these involve a lightsabre)
These are sequences that I do enjoy to watch. I cant remember one scene from TLJ at all (I personally thought the Snoke and Red Lobster guy fight was awful).
I would have loved to have liked this movie, any excuse to like Star Wars is a good excuse, but I cant seem to get over some of the major issues that have been already discussed heavily in this thread.
The treatment of Luke has been argued from both sides, and rightly so, who am I to tell Disney and Johnson how to treat and respect this character. He felt so out of place though, almost comical in the same vein as the Vader 'NOOOOO' sequences. A response completely at odds to how I perceive the character.
Will I go and watch episode IX.....of course....its Star Wars and like a battered housewife I will be back.
Rogue One was an example of how Star Wars should be done..........after this and the heavily covered issues with the production of Solo.....expectations are at an all time low for me now.
thats impressive - i think the exact opposite of everything you've written!
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Oh man don't watch that really garbage one.
Rogue one. It's so bad like it's set in Iraq, but with future technology and shaolin monks thrown in.
Actually made me bored watching it.
Oh lol, didn't even see stoofa's "vocal minority" mock, yeah man, how dare them hardcore fans Disney bought the SW from Lucas for demand quality plots?! Plus who needs canon, sense and continuity when you get so much bang bang piew piew and a pair of 3D glasses for your muhney.
Oh lol, didn't even see stoofa's "vocal minority" mock, yeah man, how dare them hardcore fans Disney bought the SW from Lucas for demand quality plots?! Plus who needs canon, sense and continuity when you get so much bang bang piew piew and a pair of 3D glasses for your muhney.
As I said - vocal minority of hardcore geeks. Do even a simple pieve of maths, see how much the film has taken, use a very average "price to view" the film and from that you'll get a very rough idea of the millions of people who have seen this film.
Now take the sad number who have signed "the petition" (LOL - No, I will not get over this pioint - "Red Button" generation and their sense of entitlement) and the small number of "vocal tweeters" and you will see that the actual number of people moaning/crying/being suicidal is extremely small compared to the sheer number of people who have actually seen the film.
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So because someone hasn't taken to sign an online petition or written something negative about the film on social media, there is a presumption that they liked the movie yeah?
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The ability to still turnover good box office figures and its position in the charts is often a good way to judge if a film is liked, because it "has legs" which can often mean good word of mouth and repeat viewings.
Look at the performance of Justice League - worse box office than any of the other DCEU movies, including Man of Steel.
Look at the performance of Justice League - worse box office than any of the other DCEU movies, including Man of Steel.
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But DC have produced stinker after stinker, the fans have learnt they're films aren't worth the effort. Marvel on the other hand have produced a string of entertaining movies. Much like Star Trek (pre-reboot) if you make enough crap films people will stop coming to see them. If Star Wars produces ok or crap films time after time the brand will be tarnished and demand drop. If Solo sucks and Episode 9 sucks even the shine would come off Star Wars. Just because people believed the hype this time round doesn't mean they will always believe the hype.
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My point is; if everyone hated it then it would be out of cinemas really quickly.
So let's see how long it hangs around.
So let's see how long it hangs around.
Star wars differs though. If it were a new franchise it would start slow and grow with word of mouth. An upward curve.
TLJ would be the complete opposite and would have a fan base who would all go at the start so figures would be high instantly and drop, the opposite curve. You would have no way of knowing the popularity of the film because it would always be on a downward curve as most don't want a film twice regardless of how popular.
No guys, SW is not that sinkable as a franchise. Even if TLJ was the shoddiest of Star Wars, enough people would still go to see even just to check how shoddy it was and moan about it later on. I see TLJ as the worst SW movie ever (plot wise, visually it's stunning) and I've paid to see it three times.
At this stage it's akin to a James Bond franchise, it might be at the point where physics are broken and idiotic scripts feature invisible cars, denture sized aqualungs, diamond studded villains, private trips to space and lasers beaming from satellites but we will all still go and see it, buy blurays and some people, will you believe, might even like it.
Part of being a fan is to try and save, if you will, what you love, not fight with what you hate (see what I did there?), if you want to see how far such fandom extends, check what "Despecialised Version" is and have a look at "the making of". This is done by fans, for fans. But the point is - even the smallest, if you will, Resistance, moaning for better plots, better McGuffins, upholding the struggle to keep the correct amount of force in The Force, while the rest of the galaxy remains comfortably numb is an admirable fight to make SW truer to its roots. To make it better, less DC, more SW while forever reminding shodmakers like Ryan Johnson that they ***** up, that it's "not the way Force works", that they need to proof read drivel they write - and that is for everyone's benefit. He will not make another broken universe SW movie and he will always remember this lesson for the rest of his days as a director. It doesn't get better than this. Now, say "thank you small group of vocal internauts" and oh - you're welcome. (thumbsup.gif)
At this stage it's akin to a James Bond franchise, it might be at the point where physics are broken and idiotic scripts feature invisible cars, denture sized aqualungs, diamond studded villains, private trips to space and lasers beaming from satellites but we will all still go and see it, buy blurays and some people, will you believe, might even like it.
Part of being a fan is to try and save, if you will, what you love, not fight with what you hate (see what I did there?), if you want to see how far such fandom extends, check what "Despecialised Version" is and have a look at "the making of". This is done by fans, for fans. But the point is - even the smallest, if you will, Resistance, moaning for better plots, better McGuffins, upholding the struggle to keep the correct amount of force in The Force, while the rest of the galaxy remains comfortably numb is an admirable fight to make SW truer to its roots. To make it better, less DC, more SW while forever reminding shodmakers like Ryan Johnson that they ***** up, that it's "not the way Force works", that they need to proof read drivel they write - and that is for everyone's benefit. He will not make another broken universe SW movie and he will always remember this lesson for the rest of his days as a director. It doesn't get better than this. Now, say "thank you small group of vocal internauts" and oh - you're welcome. (thumbsup.gif)
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Not sure if you've noticed, but very few movies these days start slow and build, like in decades gone by.
If it doesn't have a decent opening weekend, your movie is pretty much doomed.
I'd hardly call it a vocal minority. Besides, a very mixed reaction with strong opinions on both sides is likely to make people want to watch it to see what the fuss is a about. The next film will be the real test in terms of box office figures anyway.
On a side note I watched Revenge of the Sith last night and had a much better time with it than I did with TLJ. Sure it suffered from 'Prequels symdrome', but it was a fun enough watch. Key word here for me is 'fun'. TLJ was just boring.
On a side note I watched Revenge of the Sith last night and had a much better time with it than I did with TLJ. Sure it suffered from 'Prequels symdrome', but it was a fun enough watch. Key word here for me is 'fun'. TLJ was just boring.
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