Stirling Moss Bigotry

[Nismo]

David Coulthard for example and many others whose opinion I value.

Coulthard's got a pretty close relationship to her hasn't he? Not just that fact they are Scots, but there's a strong Mercedes connection too. In fact all of the drivers in the documentary have.

The programme was good PR for her, Williams, Mercedes plus anyone else mentioned. The fact that also Moss made his comments has propelled her into the media even further.

 

[Janesy B]

Sorry, who had 30 laps ?

The documentary stated Susie had 10 laps. Your quote said Valtteri Bottas, Williams, 48.963s, 170 Laps.

Susie Wolff had ~30 laps - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19981625

Wolff's driving was restricted to 100km in total because of F1's testing restrictions.

Last time I checked the South Circuit of Silverstone is less than 10km. Thanks for helping me highlight how stupid this documentary was.

 

[Sliver]

Susie Wolff had ~30 laps - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19981625

In TOTAL. In the documentary (did you not watch it? ), she did some testing earlier in the day while the track was wet. Later in the day when the track dried, she had slicks on the car and went out and did her time trial over 10 laps. The previous 20 laps don't count as she was NOT trying to set a time.

Wolff's driving was restricted to 100km in total because of F1's testing restrictions.

Last time I checked the South Circuit of Silverstone is less than 10km. Thanks for helping me highlight how stupid this documentary was.

Well I don't find you're comments objective in the slightest. You seem to like changing the facts to fit your beliefs rather than changing your beliefs to fit the facts.

 

[Skeeter]

In that case, how many of the other drivers laps were also in the wet when they weren't trying to set time?

 

[Janesy B]

Oh so she did more but they 'didn't count', as skeeter said how many of the laps done by other drivers 'didn't count'? She still had time in the car to accustom herself so they can't not count. She also spent time in the simulator.

 

[gigeorge]

Its a generational thing isnt it, my grandad and farther are the same to some extent !

 

[Kimi]

Shes rubbish, she couldnt win in F1, just not good enough, another female? maybe

 

[Sliver]

Oh so she did more but they 'didn't count', as skeeter said how many of the laps done by other drivers 'didn't count'? She still had time in the car to accustom herself so they can't not count. She also spent time in the simulator.

Time trials are about setting the fastest time. Testing and race simulators are not part of the actual time trial process. I shouldn't need to explain this. It's pretty obvious. Maybe the other drivers all had lots of testing in the simulator and on the track before doing their time trials. Therefore it's even at the end of the day isn't it ?

I have no idea how many laps by other drivers were actually time trial laps or testing. It's a fair point and to be honest, as you were posting other drivers times, I expected you would know the answer.

 

[Skeeter]

Shes rubbish, she couldnt win in F1, just not good enough, another female? maybe

This is the point. She's an average driver because.... she's just an average driver. Not because she is a woman, but it seems that with women this is always the argument that comes up.

 

[Janesy B]

This is the point. She's an average driver because.... she's just an average driver. Not because she is a woman, but it seems that with women this is always the argument that comes up.

If people want equality, then she will have to prove herself on merit. Sticking a slow driver on the grid because they're female is not equality.

 

[Sliver]

This is the point. She's an average driver because.... she's just an average driver. Not because she is a woman, but it seems that with women this is always the argument that comes up.

I think the point here is less about how good a driver Susie is, she's clearly not the fastest woman in the world. It's more about promoting women as potential drivers in F1. Love or hate Susie and the stupidly titled documentary about her, she has focused the spotlight once more on women in F1. This can only be good news for all women aspiring to someday race in F1.

 

[Skeeter]

But surely that just promotes that they should be in F1 'because they are women', which is going the wrong way.

 

[Sliver]

I don't see anyone saying women should be in F1 just because they are women. That's absurd. They should be there on merit. With people like Stirling Moss saying the sort of stupid things he does, it's tough for women. I hope Moss lives long enough to see a woman win a grand prix.

 

[Skeeter]

So why should Susie Wolff be in F1?

 

[Sliver]

That question is best put to the Williams F1 team as it was them who offered her the time trial and employed her as a test driver.

 

[Janesy B]

Better ask ex Executive Director and 16% shareholder of WilliamsF1, Toto Wolff.

 

[Skeeter]

It was more a question aimed at Silver. If its not because she is quick, which we have established she isn't, and not because she's a woman because F1 is sexist, why should she be in the seat?

 

[Sliver]

It was more a question aimed at Silver. If its not because she is quick, which we have established she isn't, and not because she's a woman because F1 is sexist, why should she be in the seat?

Maybe she shouldn't be in a seat. I'm not qualified to make that judgement. But if you don't give her the chance, you'll never know. There are people in F1 who are qualified to make such a decision who think she's worth the chance. Let's just wait and see.

 

[phil675]

Can't we just keep something as a 'blokes sport'? What next? Change the girls that hold up the grid position signs, and stand there clapping as the drivers walk to the podium, to guys in the name of equality? It makes me sick.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

Stirling Moss is entitled to his own opinion, it doesn't need shock and outrage because you don't agree with them.