'Suicide bomber' taxi explodes at Liverpool Women's Hospital

[Jean-F]

You'll never get "zero". The "completely sympathise" response is 1%, which is margin of error stuff.

If you asked the general public if alleged paedophiles should be burned alive, you'd get a decent, "yes, and I'd provide the matches" response.

I’m not sure that I’d be happy living among people who advocate burning ANYONE alive, let alone someone who is only ALLEGED to have committed a crime, not even found guilty yet.

Hospital seems such an odd destination, was he not carrying the primary device ? and another event was meant to bring casualties to the hospital.
(yes not the IRA, but similar tactics have been employed)

I heard somewhere, maybe TV news, maybe radio news, not sure so don’t take it as gospel, that the alleged bomber realised that he wasn’t going to reach the Anglican Cathedral in time, so switched to the hospital.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Hats off to the fella standing squirting the vehicle with a handheld extinguisher lol, risking his life for nothing.

Don't forget the first bloke on the scene who helped the driver

 

[Tefal]

I see the worlds blast, and bomb, yet the windows of the car 2meters from it are fine?

Incendiary devices are easier than blast devices.


M15 etc are pretty good at thier job but Incendiary is pretty much impossible to stop so it's not unlikely the device was not explosive but Incendiary a hospital isn't the worst target for a fire

 

[Raz]

You seem to think the intention was to cause less attacks, the intention was to capture or kill Bin Laden and stop Afghanistan being used for terrorist training camps.

They got shown up by a bunch of terrorists and being the US they had to show the world how big and tough they were. They left the Taliban to grow and take over originally.

Suicide bombings before 2002 in Afghanistan (and Iraq) - 0
Suicide bombings after 2002 in Afghanistan (and Iraq) - "A lot"

 

[VincentHanna]

I’m not sure that I’d be happy living among people who advocate burning ANYONE alive, let alone someone who is only ALLEGED to have committed a crime, not even found guilty yet.

Indeed, what a scary scenario that would be.

Thankfully we have due process and everyone gets their day in court.

 

[Tefal]

Yeah but why does so much murderous extremism occur in Islam compared to the rest?

Catholics are fairly murderous too aren't they? Nearly got the pm that one time

 

[Raz]

Don't forget the first bloke on the scene who helped the driver

Yeah, can imagine most people would run away from the car as a natural reaction.

 

[Zatoichi.uK]

So do you still get to go to heaven if you only manage to take out an ear? That seems like a low entry requirement.

 

[enigma27]

Just been sent to me from a friend who knows the Cabbie in question

Anyway his very good friend has just come out and said He never locked the car one bit that’s bits been made up,
what happened was the bomber at 1st wanted to go to the centre of town where a war memorial was being held at 11am, as it got close to 11am traffic set in and the bomber panicked and changed his destination to the womens hospital which straight away the driver found strange but didn’t click, as he was pulling into the woman’s hospital the bomber starts vibrating through the car so the driver looks into his mirror to see the bomber with flashy lights all over him, this is when he slams on and the bomb is detonated, the driver is knocked unconscious for a few seconds, wakes up and leaves the vehicle!
He has had one ear sown bk on, he has a fractured back, burns all over and shrapnel in his back, let’s all hope him a speedy recovery as it could have been a lot worse!

 

[Tefal]

I’m not sure that I’d be happy living among people who advocate burning ANYONE alive, let alone someone who is only ALLEGED to have committed a crime, not even found guilty yet.

This^


Also fair play to the cabbie locking yourself in with a bomber divided by a screen is a different cold kind of heroism. There's no fight or anger just cold hard acceptance that it's you or somone else.


That seems much after than fighting somone

 

[Deleted User 298457]

I heard somewhere, maybe TV news, maybe radio news, not sure so don’t take it as gospel, that the alleged bomber realised that he wasn’t going to reach the Anglican Cathedral in time, so switched to the hospital.

This seems most likely.

Perhaps the chap was wired to blow at 11 so had to think quickly. With regard to rummaging with the device, possibly to disarm it?

Perhaps wiring them to blow avoids any last minute jitters/inability to execute type problems.

 

[Minusorange]

"The UK terror threat level has been raised to severe"

It always is after an attack, it's a hindsight alert

 

[Ayahuasca]

Don't forget the first bloke on the scene who helped the driver

He was in and away before the car was fully ablaze.

 

[StriderX]

Fewer attacks. What about all of the attacks prior to and including 9/11? Additionally what justification is there for attacking the UK based on Syria? A civil war which occurred due to a dictator oppressing and murdering his own people.

Any interference at all will be taken as responsibility considering we're dealing with what are effectively conspiracy theorists, plus it's not much of stretch for these people with us being in NATO, Five Eyes and recently involved in other conflicts in the area.

 

[potatolord]

I’m not sure that I’d be happy living among people who advocate burning ANYONE alive, let alone someone who is only ALLEGED to have committed a crime, not even found guilty yet.

I heard somewhere, maybe TV news, maybe radio news, not sure so don’t take it as gospel, that the alleged bomber realised that he wasn’t going to reach the Anglican Cathedral in time, so switched to the hospital.

I don't disagree at all. I was just making a point, based on what I think would be the response to such a question. Horrible opinions are not unique to a single group of people.

Time and again, people receive a life sentence in the court of public opinion.

 

[Jean-F]

Yup, driver might be blagging it a bit. Doors (possibly) locked automatically (IF it is like a black cab) and he doesn’t seem to react until after the bomb has gone off.

(Unless there was some manual action by him to lock them or he deliberately kept the car moving in order to keep them locked. Surely he’d have locked them and stopped cab/jumped out)

Full disclosure, I’m pretty sure that if I’d found myself in that situation my mind would have concentrated on making sure that I successfully got out of Dodge, I doubt I’d have turned into an altruistic hero just like that.

Don't most taxi doors lock on the move anyway to avoid people jumping the fares?

It’s not for that, I can’t see bilkers being so determined to escape paying that they’d jump out while the cab is moving.
It was originally introduced, or so I was given to understand, when a child opened the passenger door when the taxi was going along the M4 en route to Heathrow, and he was killed.

 

[Tefal]

Full disclosure, I’m pretty sure that if I’d found myself in that situation my mind would have concentrated on making sure that I successfully got out of Dodge, I doubt I’d have turned into an altruistic hero just like that.



It’s not for that, I can’t see bilkers being so determined to escape paying that they’d jump out while the cab is moving.
It was originally introduced, or so I was given to understand, when a child opened the passenger door when the taxi was going along the M4 en route to Heathrow, and he was killed.

Do they activate above a certain speed?

Or time on throttle etc?

As I notice they don't kick in till a few seconds after moving

 

[Skunkworks]

Can we go back to the good old days when we had a respite between Ramadan and Christmas?

 

[LabR@t]

Incendiary devices are easier than blast devices.


M15 etc are pretty good at thier job but Incendiary is pretty much impossible to stop so it's not unlikely the device was not explosive but Incendiary a hospital isn't the worst target for a fire

The hospital wasn't the intended target

 

[LabR@t]

Really should just stop reporting these incidents tbh.

Lol you what?

Uncomfortable truth hey?

Shameful