Summer Transfer Thread 2018

BaZ87 said:
£48.4m + £4.4m in bonus's according to Paul Joyce - a bit cheaper than the talk of £60m a week or two back.
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Just out of interest are you seeing massive differences in the reports so far of the amount agreed

Even after its supposedly agreed the fee for Fred is anywhere between £47m - £54m initially depending on where you read (and while its been "agreed" I don't think Utd have officially announced him yet)


Its just interesting that with all the different platforms and speed of comms in general its strange that fees still differ so widely after several days

(not that an extra few million really matter in the grand scheme of things to Liverpool or Utd for that matter)
 
FrankJH said:
Just out of interest are you seeing massive differences in the reports so far of the amount agreed

Even after its supposedly agreed the fee for Fred is anywhere between £47m - £54m initially depending on where you read (and while its been "agreed" I don't think Utd have officially announced him yet)


Its just interesting that with all the different platforms and speed of comms in general its strange that fees still differ so widely after several days

(not that an extra few million really matter in the grand scheme of things to Liverpool or Utd for that matter)
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The news only broke in the last hour or two Frank. Rumours over the last couple of weeks have been talking about £60m but all the stories tonight are reporting it as £48.4m (€55m) + £4.4m (€5m) in bonus's - these are presumably figures briefed to them from the club. Who knows what Lyon will brief the French media.

I've not followed the Fred deal but at a guess the £47m - £54m variation could be something as simple as the inital figure and the top end figure once all add-ons are taken into account.
 
Moses said:
Other top four contender managers must be sweating a bit. Liverpool mean business :eek:. Although obviously they’re not the finished article... yet.
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a lot I think will depend on the GK situation, as it stands I dont think the other top teams will be worrying too much, but if Liverpool sign a commanding top keeper that may well get them looking worriedly in the direction of Merseyside.
 
We've had a few of those, should be concerned about Liverpool seasons in the past 3 decades I'm sure and its never seemingly mattered :(
 
BaZ87 said:
It's not that much cheaper than what was previously being rumoured (£60m or so).

Giroud isn't going to settle for being on the bench 90% of the time? That's the problem we're faced with because Firmino is Klopp's first name on the team sheet.

Hernandez and Defoe scored 8 and 4 goals respectively. Why settle for that when you can instead look to bring in another Mane/Salah type that could bag 10-15 goals and provide depth right across the front line? Also Ings and Solanke are nothing like our front 3 or Fekir, in fact Ings is very much the player you're describing when you say you want a Defoe or Hernandez.

If we ended the summer with a midfield and attack of Hendo, Fabinho, Gini, Milner, Lallana, Keita, Ox, Fekir, Mane, Salah, Firmino, Ings or Solanke and 1 more flexible, creative forward then I wouldn't be too concerned. You've got plenty of flexibility and options there with Fekir & Ox being able to play in midfield or attack and you have the option of an Ings or Solanke if you wanted to mix things up.
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TBH I'd clear out Ings and Solanke, get Shaquiri in (£12m is pocket change these days!) and if Origi will come back he's fast and pacy. I'd be happy with that. GK wise I don't really want us paying £100m for Alisson or Oblak. I'd rather stick with Karius.
 
MissChief said:
TBH I'd clear out Ings and Solanke, get Shaquiri in (£12m is pocket change these days!) and if Origi will come back he's fast and pacy. I'd be happy with that. GK wise I don't really want us paying £100m for Alisson or Oblak. I'd rather stick with Karius.
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Origi went out on loan last summer because he wanted to play regularly. He'd get even less chances next season so that's not an option, although I agree I'd rather have him than those two. As for the keeper, I'm not convinced there's anything in the Oblak talk and Alisson isn't going to cost quite so much but even at £50-60m, I know what you mean. It's hard to justify but just like VVD, if he solves a problem then I'd sell my liver to top up any bid for him.
 
BaZ87 said:
Origi went out on loan last summer because he wanted to play regularly. He'd get even less chances next season so that's not an option, although I agree I'd rather have him than those two. As for the keeper, I'm not convinced there's anything in the Oblak talk and Alisson isn't going to cost quite so much but even at £50-60m, I know what you mean. It's hard to justify but just like VVD, if he solves a problem then I'd sell my liver to top up any bid for him.
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If we can get Alisson for £60m or less I'd accept that. Still makes him VERY expensive for a 'keeper though!
 
BaZ87 said:
It's not that much cheaper than what was previously being rumoured (£60m or so).

Giroud isn't going to settle for being on the bench 90% of the time? That's the problem we're faced with because Firmino is Klopp's first name on the team sheet.

Hernandez and Defoe scored 8 and 4 goals respectively. Why settle for that when you can instead look to bring in another Mane/Salah type that could bag 10-15 goals and provide depth right across the front line? Also Ings and Solanke are nothing like our front 3 or Fekir, in fact Ings is very much the player you're describing when you say you want a Defoe or Hernandez.

If we ended the summer with a midfield and attack of Hendo, Fabinho, Gini, Milner, Lallana, Keita, Ox, Fekir, Mane, Salah, Firmino, Ings or Solanke and 1 more flexible, creative forward then I wouldn't be too concerned. You've got plenty of flexibility and options there with Fekir & Ox being able to play in midfield or attack and you have the option of an Ings or Solanke if you wanted to mix things up.
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Because you want variety - all of our attacking players who can play the CF role do so in the same way. They're great, but I'd like someone else in the squad who you can put on to give opponents something else to consider.
 
BaZ87 said:
Origi went out on loan last summer because he wanted to play regularly. He'd get even less chances next season so that's not an option, although I agree I'd rather have him than those two. As for the keeper, I'm not convinced there's anything in the Oblak talk and Alisson isn't going to cost quite so much but even at £50-60m, I know what you mean. It's hard to justify but just like VVD, if he solves a problem then I'd sell my liver to top up any bid for him.
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I think the Oblak talk is to move the Alisson deal along. I dont think 50-60 is that much either. The markets gone up so dramatically its hard to judge fees nowadays. We also have the money. We havent spent a lot in the last few windows (net) and weve got to a cl final so the funds are definitely there.
 
We have agent Bobby sorting the alisson deal out we will be fine :).

Will say am impressed in speed we seem to be attempting these deals, I still feel a keeper is needed, striker I'm not convinced needed as I feel Ings could step up next year and swap with firmino now finally fit and over injuries.

Shaqri if that 12m is true I'd gamble on him least it's an experienced option from the bench
 
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If we sign Fekir to go with Fabinho and Keita, that's some upgrade for Liverpool's midfield!

Now please klopp, sign a keeper! Also feel we need a better centre back than lovren and a striker who can come off the bench and affect a game.
 
Fekir saga carry on lyon made a statement saying its all false.

I can see it being dijk all over again and we will end up saying sorry as the announcement instead
 
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manic111 said:
Because you want variety - all of our attacking players who can play the CF role do so in the same way. They're great, but I'd like someone else in the squad who you can put on to give opponents something else to consider.
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I don't understand why you keep saying all our attackers would play the CF role the same. If Bobby was out and one of Mane or Salah played through the middle, they'd play the role completely differently. If your point is simply they're not a penalty box striker then ok but you can keep one of Ings or Solanke for that - Ings is the same style of player as a Defoe or Hernandez and Solanke is not too dissimilar in style to a Giroud.

I just don't see the point in wasting money on a player that isn't going to be top class (or even close), won't even make the 17 man squad 90% of the time and offer us nothing more than Ings or Solanke would. Other than signing an unproven kid that's happy to make 10-15 appearances a season for the time being, the only way we sign a striker is if it's somebody like a Werner - he'd provide you with cover/something different to Bobby in the number 9 role but could easily play from a wide position similar to Salah meaning he'd have far more opportunities to play.
 
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