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To be honest, every football club carries a donkey now and again. Yours just happens to be called Mourinho
Summer Transfer Thread 2018
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To be honest, every football club carries a donkey now and again. Yours just happens to be called Mourinho
I thought exactly same as you but couldn't be bothered to reply.
There's no measure on earth that I can see where you'd put Fellaini down as being the most effective player at Man U in past few seasons. No doubt most players have underperformed and that's given him an opportunity for more game time then he would normally have had, but it's a massive leap to suggest he's been their most effective player.
Effective in short spells off the bench maybe. But mostly completely ineffective imo.
He's also lazy, has become extremely inconsistent and doesn't look like he wants to be here any more.
Can you come up with some stats to prove this
You could argue, justifiably, that Fellaini has a negative effect on the side because playing him results in you playing a certain way (pump the ball in the ball and hope the afro wins it) but ultimately that is the way your manager wants to play and if you're going to play that way then Fellaini is hugely effective.
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Can you come up with some stats to prove this
You could argue, justifiably, that Fellaini has a negative effect on the side because playing him results in you playing a certain way (pump the ball in the ball and hope the afro wins it) but ultimately that is the way your manager wants to play and if you're going to play that way then Fellaini is hugely effective.
I know you’re on the wind up but he is a last resort and you know it. He is used for a particular reason and he’s not a first team player. He’s good at what he does and what he is for.
First of all, I'm not on the wind up at all. Whether he's not a first team player or not, he's a player that Mourinho seemingly always turns to, whether that be from the start in the biggest games, when you're chasing a game and even when you're trying to see a game out. I can completely understand why Utd fans don't like him because his inclusion in the side leads to playing a certain way but it's a way that your manager (managers if you include LvG before) will turn to a lot and for that style of play he's hugely effective.
I've not said he's a great player or your best player but he's been consistently one of your most effective players in terms of doing what he's asked to do, as you say. Fellaini actually sums up Utd quite well over the last 12 months or so - not pretty or great but gets results.
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Also the fact that he shouldn't be starting games vs the likes of Sevilla last year and stopped us playing and there was no cohesion in the game thanks to him
It was time to move on and actually get a person who is capable of playing the ball rather than the man - but Utd are still stuck in the past.
Its also highly embarrassing for the club to have a deal on the table for months, the player hocking himself all around Europe wanting more money on a free transfer only to come back tail between his legs because no one will offer him as much as Utd.
People can point to the winners vs Arsenal all they like while completely ignoring the earlier & easier chances he completely misses - what about all those games where he came on and didn't get that 2nd chance, where a fundamentally better player may well have put away.
At least give youth a chance with "plan B" rather than the age old give Fellaini a run out that doesnt prove anything
Fellaini being anywhere on the field actually makes it fundamentally harder to win - because we so often lose possession (but that doesn't get included in any stat)…...a lot of the time Utd win despite Fellaini being on the field not because of him
also doenst actually highlight the games / points he actually cost us by coming on and conceding stupid free kicks / pens either (like vs Everton where he conceded a pen within about a minute of coming on)
Also the fact that he shouldn't be starting games vs the likes of Sevilla last year and stopped us playing and there was no cohesion in the game thanks to him
It was time to move on and actually get a person who is capable of playing the ball rather than the man - but Utd are still stuck in the past.
Its also highly embarrassing for the club to have a deal on the table for months, the player hocking himself all around Europe wanting more money on a free transfer only to come back tail between his legs because no one will offer him as much as Utd.
People can point to the winners vs Arsenal all they like while completely ignoring the earlier & easier chances he completely misses - what about all those games where he came on and didn't get that 2nd chance, where a fundamentally better player may well have put away.
At least give youth a chance with "plan B" rather than the age old give Fellaini a run out that doesnt prove anything
Fellaini being anywhere on the field actually makes it fundamentally harder to win - because we so often lose possession (but that doesn't get included in any stat)…...a lot of the time Utd win despite Fellaini being on the field not because of him
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Huh? The stats I post were for all games played with and without him
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We're set to announce the signing of Lee Grant from Stoke. He'll be 3rd choice keeper and allow Pereira to go out on loan and get some experience I imagine. Confirmed by Lord Norwood
Not just pereira - I imagine Dean Henderson aswel. Its hard to find a goalkeeper that would be happy to be third choice, effectively not even getting a game. Seeing Pereira go out and get some much needed experience is vital.
Cracking news. Supposedly it's close to £200k per week including bonus's but there's a separate additional goal bonus on top of that which I presume is similar to Firmino's old agreement - his bonus per goal increases the more he scores.
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Just better hope he doesn’t do another Suarez, signs in December 2013, leaves in July 2014!
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I think Henderson has already agreed a deal for this season, can't remember where though.
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What was Suarez's release clause. Apparently there was a £40m one that Arsenal tried to use but Henry said "apparently release clauses don't mean much".
really happy with arsenals signings so far and led to believe a few more coming
That clause wasn't a release clause, it simply stated that Liverpool would consider any bid over that amount. I was talking about the clause in the contract Suarez signed after that summer, 6 months before he joined Barca. We couldn't prevent Suarez leaving 6 months after he signed a new contract because the deal he signed included a release clause, Liverpool have by all accounts refused to put release clauses in any deals since then and is reportedly still the case with Salah's new deal.