Summer Transfer Thread 2018

BaZ87 · 13 Jul 2018 at 16:50

I seriously doubt they sold £55m worth of shirts in 24 hours however - of whatever they did sell how much was their profit (they buy the shirts from the manufacturer and sell on like any retailer would) and how many of those shirts would have been sold anyway but with a different players name on the back? Selling a Ronaldo shirt makes Juve no more money than had that same supporter bought a Higuain shirt instead.

The whole shirt sales stuff is the biggest load of nonsense ever.

robfosters · 13 Jul 2018 at 16:52

I’ve been suckered into it before.

Went and bought a shirt with Henry on as soon as he re-signed in 2012.

marcus_667 · 13 Jul 2018 at 16:54

520,000 shirts in 24 hours at average of 105 euro each

BaZ87 · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:02

marcus_667 said:
520,000 shirts in 24 hours at average of 105 euro each

Do you really believe that? Juve's total commercial revenue, which includes all their sponsors, kit manufacturing deals and all revenue (revenue not profit) they make from selling merchandise was under £100m as of their last set of accounts. Do you honestly believe that they've made over 50% of their entire commercial revenue in 24 hours just through the sale of 1 shirt?

Tinders · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:02

Very much doubt a store would have 1/2 millions shirts on the shelves!

BobShark · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:03

Tombstone said:
Looks like the Shaqiri deal will be completed today for Liverpool. I assume he's mostly going to be a squad player rather than a first teamer, hopefully he understands that if so. I could take or leave him myself, seen him be great in matches, seen him be totally nonexistant in matches, however, in the current pricing climate, for a paltry 13m, its a no brainer. Surprised really that Arsenal didnt take a punt on him at that price.

I'd agree with that, absolute snip at £13m in todays market. Surprised no-one else really went in for him at that price.

marcus_667 · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:07

BaZ87 said:
Do you really believe that? Juve's total commercial revenue, which includes all their sponsors, kit manufacturing deals and all revenue (revenue not profit) they make from selling merchandise was under £100m as of their last set of accounts. Do you honestly believe that they've made over 50% of their entire commercial revenue in 24 hours just through the sale of 1 shirt?

not at all I still think 520,000 shirts in a supposed 24 hours is impressive

marcus_667 · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:07

BobShark said:
I'd agree with that, absolute snip at £13m in todays market. Surprised no-one else really went in for him at that price.

that's a good buy really even for the scousers

BaZ87 · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:11

marcus_667 said:
not at all I still think 520,000 shirts in a supposed 24 hours is impressive

I'd be stunned if that 520,000 figure is even close to being true. We've heard the same thing 100 times before in the past when high profile playes have joined clubs. It's a load of nonsense.

nicktay2605 · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:25

Yeah I find that hard to believe. Anyway, even if true it doesn't really mean that much. Juventus do indeed have a slightly different structure to their kit deal with Adidas in that they manage the licensing and merchandising of their shirts, meaning that they keep the profits from shirt sales through direct channels (presumably that means Juve official stores and the Juve website), but that also means that they have to buy the shirts from Adidas and pay all the other costs associated with having stores to sell those shirts, such as staffing, utilities, etc. There's an article online about Juve's revenue:

http://en.calcioefinanza.com/2017/0...cluding-player-sales-champions-league-income/

According to the article they made eighteen million euros in the 2016-17 season from kit sales, minus eight million euros for the purchase of the kits and other products, and that doesn't take into account the additional costs mentioned above. Shirt sales paying for transfers is, as Baz says, nonsense.

robfosters · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:29

Tinders said:
Very much doubt a store would have 1/2 millions shirts on the shelves!

They haven’t got one store. They’ve probably got stores all round the world, like many premier league clubs. Plus, online orders.

BobShark · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:36

BaZ87 said:
I'd be stunned if that 520,000 figure is even close to being true. We've heard the same thing 100 times before in the past when high profile playes have joined clubs. It's a load of nonsense.

+1

I can't imagine 520,000 shirts being sold in 24 hours.

nicktay2605 said:
Yeah I find that hard to believe. Anyway, even if true it doesn't really mean that much. Juventus do indeed have a slightly different structure to their kit deal with Adidas in that they manage the licensing and merchandising of their shirts, meaning that they keep the profits from shirt sales through direct channels (presumably that means Juve official stores and the Juve website), but that also means that they have to buy the shirts from Adidas and pay all the other costs associated with having stores to sell those shirts, such as staffing, utilities, etc. There's an article online about Juve's revenue:

http://en.calcioefinanza.com/2017/0...cluding-player-sales-champions-league-income/

According to the article they made eighteen million euros in the 2016-17 season from kit sales, minus eight million euros for the purchase of the kits and other products, and that doesn't take into account the additional costs mentioned above. Shirt sales paying for transfers is, as Baz says, nonsense.

Good post, think that sums it up.

Tinders · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:41

robfosters said:
They haven’t got one store. They’ve probably got stores all round the world, like many premier league clubs. Plus, online orders.

In a post earlier, the 55m came from the Turin store alone.

robfosters · 13 Jul 2018 at 17:45

Tinders said:
In a post earlier, the 55m came from the Turin store alone.

Not a chance. I know for a fact the Arsenal armoury stocks around 5000 shirts at a time max and that’s a decent size store.

I reckon the online orders are included as they probably go through to the Turin store and there’s a notice on the website about orders taking longer due to demand.

BaZ87 · 13 Jul 2018 at 21:00

Shaqiri to Liverpool is now confirmed:

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/307046-xherdan-shaqiri-liverpool-fc-transfer-complete

Mark1989 · 13 Jul 2018 at 21:08

BaZ87 said:
Shaqiri to Liverpool is now confirmed:

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/307046-xherdan-shaqiri-liverpool-fc-transfer-complete

Beat me to it, as stated by us all here pretty much good bench option

MissChief · 13 Jul 2018 at 21:15

Mark1989 said:
Beat me to it, as stated by us all here pretty much good bench option

Good opportunity on to have on the bench and resting players was always difficult. And we've been very lucky with injuries for our front three last season. I'm half expecting one of them to be out for 2 months or more this season as were due it.

Mark1989 · 13 Jul 2018 at 21:19

MissChief said:
Good opportunity on to have on the bench and resting players was always difficult. And we've been very lucky with injuries for our front three last season. I'm half expecting one of them to be out for 2 months or more this season as were due it.

This, salah look knackered at world cup and wary of his shoulder

antijoke · 13 Jul 2018 at 21:36

Over the Moon!

Was gutted he went to stoke instead of us, but maybe it was just the wrong time, now I believe Klopp will get the best out of him. This is shaping up to be a very good window. A couple more in some areas and I think it might be our best in a long time.

nicktay2605 · 13 Jul 2018 at 22:52

Liverpool are going to be seriously dangerous next season, they've done some good business so far, plus they'll have a settled and established back four with two of the best emerging full-backs/wing-backs in the prem. United seriously need to make another couple of signings if they want to keep up next season.