**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**

Sidewinder, I'm not sure about predicting where anyone will finish, let me see more of the teams play :D

I do however have Spurs down to be giving Everton, Villa and Manchester City and run for their money for the 5/6 place. Will be a good battle to watch.
 
Stag said:
I'm not saying that Spurs replacements are all better, but that they don't particularly have any weak points in their replacements. That is my point, I'm not saying our replacements are all stronger.

I'd argue certainly Arsenal in central midfield, Man Utd in central defence and Liverpool up front are all lacking quality replacements. In which case I may go put some money on Chelsea for the title as looking at their squad they have at least 1 high quality stand in for each position.
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That is my opinion. Can you argue that Song is better than Huddlestone, or that Evans and Cathcart are better than Bassong and Dawson, or that Voronin and N'Gog are better than Crouch and Pavluchenko. The answer is of course you can argue, it's just my opinion; I'm not preaching my word as gospel.

Tummy said:
Yes, all those clubs have back up that can cover adequately for the missing players. Spurs, have average players who can cover for their good first eleven, The clubs mentioned (United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool) all have good players to cover for the excellent first team,
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See above, my point is that they have bigger weak points in their replacements than Spurs do.

I just don't understand what Stag is getting at.
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Do your lips move when you read? Or has my above post now clarified my position? Or have you read that again and seen "ZOMG SPURS ARE WIKID AND EVEN OUR RSVRES WOULD BEET YOUR FIRST TEAM!"

Liverpool, spent most of last season without Torres / Gerrard, they started 14 games together, and still some how managed to come second, and win the most games in the league ? the back up can't be that ****.
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Liverpool finished the highest scoring team with Torres scoring 24 and Gerrard scoring 16. Torres only missed 5 league games, Gerrard missed 8. I'm not debating the attacking prowess of Liverpool, merely that the quality of their backup strikers isn't as good as Crouch and Pavluchenko.

I do wonder if we'll see more of Gerrard back in the centre of midfield now that Alonso has gone, they had no invention against Spurs and really missed his incisive through balls that he provided.
 
skippi90 said:
Try to add something more to discussion that the same old top 4 talk that you get every year and it get's thrown back at you. :rolleyes:
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The top four, have been there for quite a while, and it's kind of boring seeing the top four finish in almost the same order over and over.

Manchester City, now have the money to be able to compete with the top four, Everton showed a few years ago you don't just need money to crack the top four. Villa came fairly close last season.
 
Tummy said:
The top four, have been there for quite a while, and it's kind of boring seeing the top four finish in almost the same order over and over.

Manchester City, now have the money to be able to compete with the top four, Everton showed a few years ago you don't just need money to crack the top four. Villa came fairly close last season.
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And we came fairly close 2 seasons in a row.

Even when we lost out to Arsenal on the final day of the 2005/2006 season we were still accused of getting "carried away".
 
Shamikebab said:
It is amusing how carried away some people can get after a couple of wins :D
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Try offering a cogent rebuttal to my opinion then, instead of not understanding what I'm saying in plain English.

skippi90 said:
Show me an example of this getting carried away.
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Indeed, all I've posted is my opinion of the weakness's of the top 4 and Spurs comparative strengths in certain areas. I haven't bleated that this will be our year or that certain teams are ****, or even talked Spurs players up much.

No-one has actually addressed the points I've made they just seen "Spurs are better" and attacked that.
 
skippi90 said:
And we came fairly close last season.

Even when we lost out to Arsenal on the final day of the 2005/2006 season we were still accused of getting "carried away".
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You'll do well to come close again this season as well.

I herd on Sky Sports that Chelsea were close to signing somebody ?
 
skippi90 said:
Our squad is stronger than I had thought now with the latest signings.
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That doesn't even include Bassong instead of Chimbo. :D

I seem to remember Mourinho talking about needing 2 players for each position, well I'm pretty happy with ours.

:)
 
Stag said:
See above, my point is that they have bigger weak points in their replacements than Spurs do.
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Don't think they do. I think there replacements are as good in cases as Spurs first team, and better then Spurs replacements, for the most part.

Stag said:
Do your lips move when you read? Or has my above post now clarified my position? Or have you read that again and seen "ZOMG SPURS ARE WIKID AND EVEN OUR RSVRES WOULD BEET YOUR FIRST TEAM!"
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I don't have to read out loud, no.
You've said, imo, that Spurs reserve team are as good as the top four's reserve team, which isn't something I agree with.

Stag said:
I'm not debating the attacking prowess of Liverpool, merely that the quality of their backup strikers isn't as good as Crouch and Pavluchenko.
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Again, that god awful back up that Liverpool have obviously isn't as good as Crouch and Pavluchnko, because they only finished second and only won the most games in the league.
 
Tummy said:
Don't think they do. I think there replacements are as good in cases as Spurs first team, and better then Spurs replacements, for the most part.
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For the most part, care to actually counter my point?

I don't have to read out loud, no.
You've said, imo, that Spurs reserve team are as good as the top four's reserve team, which isn't something I agree with.
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I haven't said such a thing no, I've said that certain teams have certain weakness's in their respective squads. Care to actually counter the point I was making instead of reading some other point that I wasn't?

Again, that god awful back up that Liverpool have obviously isn't as good as Crouch and Pavluchnko, because they only finished second and only won the most games in the league.
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I've never said their backup was "god awful", why aren't you able to actually understand what I type?
 
Stag considering so many people seem to be 'misunderstanding your point' have you ever thought that might be because you aren't presenting it very well?
 
Considered it, but I have stated it quite plainly in numerous different posts. For some reason you think I'm saying that Spurs reserves are better than everyone elses, which I'm most definitely not.

I'm saying that the weak points in our reserves aren't as big as other teams, and have explained exactly the players and teams I'm talking about. On the whole the top 4's backup players are better, but in certain areas they are lacking where as Spurs are not. Yet you have completely missed that and decided I'm saying something else.

Ho hum.
 
Stag said:
For the most part, care to actually counter my point?
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Alex, Ivanovic, Evans, Brown, Fabio, Ballack, Deco, Eboue, Song, Diaby, Kalou, Belletti, Anelka (maybe), Vela, Ramsay, Rosicky, Senderos, Wilshire, Tosic, Park, Foster, Voronin... can't be bothered to list anymore.

There, are some of the "replacements" for the top four, that I'd say are better then some of the replacements that Spurs have.
 
Basically, Spurs now have a balanced squad.


We could field that 2nd team against the poorer teams in the league and the FA/Carling cup and be hopeful of a result.

No more, no less.
 
skippi90 said:
Basically, Spurs now have a balanced squad.


We could field that 2nd team against the poorer teams in the league and the FA/Carling cup and be hopeful of a result.

No more, no less.
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Sense.

You have a good first team, and a decent set of back up players.
Players that should allow 'Arry to rest the majority of your first team and still pick up a win against poor sides, indeed :)

You'll still need to strengthen your team, but this is true of most teams in football :)
 
Stag said:
I'd argue certainly Arsenal in central midfield, Man Utd in central defence and Liverpool up front are all lacking quality replacements. In which case I may go put some money on Chelsea for the title as looking at their squad they have at least 1 high quality stand in for each position.
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Stag said:
Can you argue that Song is better than Huddlestone, or that Evans and Cathcart are better than Bassong and Dawson, or that Voronin and N'Gog are better than Crouch and Pavluchenko. The answer is of course you can argue, it's just my opinion; I'm not preaching my word as gospel.
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I already had. :p
 
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Stag said:
Can you argue that Song is better than Huddlestone, or that Evans and Cathcart are better than Bassong and Dawson, or that Voronin and N'Gog are better than Crouch and Pavluchenko. The answer is of course you can argue, it's just my opinion; I'm not preaching my word as gospel.
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Well I'm not going to speak for the other teams players. But Evans and Brown are almost certainly better than Bassong and Dawson, Brown has many years experience at the highest level of club football and international football, Evans is young but is already an international regular and part of the defence that held the clean sheet record last year. Considering Vidic and Ferdinand is probably the best central defence partnership in the league at the moment, him stepping up in his first season when Rio and Nemanja were out at various times shows how talented he is.
 
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