**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**

Tummy said:
Spurs replacements are stronger then the top fours ? :rolleyes::D
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*Bangs head*

For a start that statement is meaningless and you have again missed by point. Or do you want Huddlestone to have a weight lifting competition with someone? :D

Other then your starting eleven, you're very average. Which could have something to do with you not breaking in to the top four, Good team when all are fit, average back up. The top four have excellent first teams and good back up.
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I guess this is where our OPINIONS differ slightly. I'm not saying that Spurs replacements are all better, but that they don't particularly have any weak points in their replacements. That is my point, I'm not saying our replacements are all stronger.

I'd argue certainly Arsenal in central midfield, Man Utd in central defence and Liverpool up front are all lacking quality replacements. In which case I may go put some money on Chelsea for the title as looking at their squad they have at least 1 high quality stand in for each position.

Spurs have no players that are truly head and shoulders above at the club (unless you count Crouch ;)), unlike previous seasons: though there is a case for Modric and Defoe but I digress. :p Certainly there are stand out players, but the disparity between them and their replacements isn't as wide as the big 4's superstars and the replacements in the above mentioned weak points.

Call me an optimist but I haven't been this confident about Spurs in a long time. Mainly because we have consistently had massive changes to the squad over the past 5 seasons, this season is the first where we've not seen wholesale changes either by choice or by Utd poaching. If the team continues to gel and improve who knows what will happen.

If we win at West Ham that will be our best start to a season that I can remember, and probably most people can. If it isn't already lol. :)
 
Stag said:
*Bangs head*
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I'd be banging my head if I was trying to make the ridiculous point you are.

skippi90 said:
The point was made that we couldn't handle the defensive injuries that Man U have.

Well, erm, we kinda are right now.

We have Woodgate and Dawson out and King

And we now also have Gomes injured so have had to recall Button as backup for Cudicini.
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Oh diddums really? We have Rio, Vidic, Rafael and Van De Saar injured and then Brown and Evans both being played despite not really being fit.

What point are you trying to make? That Tottenham have better backups than the top 4? that Tottenham have more squad depth?
 
Shamikebab said:
I'd be banging my head if I was trying to make the ridiculous point you are.
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Indeed, I don't see what he's getting at.


Shamikebab said:
Oh diddums really? We have Rio, Vidic, Rafael and Van De Saar injured and then Brown and Evans both being played despite not really being fit.

What point are you trying to make? That Tottenham have better backups than the top 4? that Tottenham have more squad depth?
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I suppose Spurs amazing strength in depth is why they've been consistently challenging for the Champions league. Above the likes of Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Tottenham, don't have as good of a squad as the top four, the first 11 isn't as good, and the back ups certainly aren't as good.
 
Shamikebab said:
Oh diddums really? We have Rio, Vidic, Rafael and Van De Saar injured and then Brown and Evans both being played despite not really being fit.

What point are you trying to make? That Tottenham have better backups than the top 4? that Tottenham have more squad depth?
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That we also have defensive injuries. :confused:

No need to get your knickers in a twist.

The mood here has certainly changed from yesterday.
 
Shamikebab said:
I'd be banging my head if I was trying to make the ridiculous point you are.
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What ridiculous point is that?

Oh diddums really? We have Rio, Vidic, Rafael and Van De Saar injured and then Brown and Evans both being played despite not really being fit.
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Exactly my point, your 2 superstar CB's are injured and you go an lose to Burnley. ;)

What point are you trying to make? That Tottenham have better backups than the top 4? that Tottenham have more squad depth?
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Read my above post. :rolleyes: The point is that Spurs don't really have any comparatively weak replacements compared to their first 11.

Don't get your knickers in a twist, THESE ARE OPINIONS. :)
 
skippi90 said:
That we also have defensive injuries. :confused:

No need to get your knickers in a twist.

The mood here has certainly changed from yesterday.
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All teams are hit by injuries through the season, The better teams have replacements that are able to play at a very high level, close to the first team.

While, Spurs might well have decent back up, it's just decent back up for a good team. It's not the same as good back up, for an excellent team.
 
Tummy said:
All teams are hit by injuries through the season, The better teams have replacements that are able to play at a very high level, close to the first team.

While, Spurs might well have decent back up, it's just decent back up for a good team. It's not the same as good back up, for an excellent team.
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Who said otherwise? :confused:

I don't quite understand why I'm being hit by this all of a sudden. :p
 
skippi90 said:
Who said otherwise? :confused:

I don't quite understand why I'm being hit by this all of a sudden. :p
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It's not aimed at you Skip.

I just don't understand at all what Stag is harping on about, I think he's getting carried away by the start Spurs have made to the season.

Stag said:
Now without a stand out player(s) we aren't particularly weakened by a long term injury or losing a player in the transfer window.

Can the same be said for Liverpool (Gerrard/Torres) or even Man Utd (Rooney), Arsenal (Fabregas/Van Persie), Chelsea (Lampard/Terry) for that matter? :p
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Yes, all those clubs have back up that can cover adequately for the missing players. Spurs, have average players who can cover for their good first eleven, The clubs mentioned (United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool) all have good players to cover for the excellent first team, I just don't understand what Stag is getting at.

Liverpool, spent most of last season without Torres / Gerrard, they started 14 games together, and still some how managed to come second, and win the most games in the league ? the back up can't be that ****.
 
Tummy said:
It's not aimed at you Skip.

I just don't understand at all what Stag is harping on about, I think he's getting carried away by the start Spurs have made to the season.



Yes, all those clubs have back up that can cover adequately for the missing players. Spurs, have average players who can cover for their good first eleven, The clubs mentioned (United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool) all have good players to cover for the excellent first team, I just don't understand what Stag is getting at.

Liverpool, spent most of last season without Torres / Gerrard, they started 14 games together, and still some how managed to come second, and win the most games in the league ? the back up can't be that ****.
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I wouldn't call Woodgate, Modric and Palacios average but then, I am biased somewhat.
 
skippi90 said:
I wouldn't call Woodgate, Modric and Palacios average but then, I am biased somewhat.
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oh no, I think Palacios is a beast in the middle of the midfield, Modric is a wonderful player and those two would maybe get in to a couple of the top four.

Woodgate is a good player, he has an injury plagued career :(
 
skippi90 said:
Our squad is stronger than I had thought now with the latest signings.
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From the 2nd of August.


Was I getting carried away then?

Stop fooling yourselves. We're not all utter knobs.
 
Personally, i believe Spurs will finish in the top 5. Yes i know about the whole 'not getting carried away' attitude but those two games will have lifted morale, certainly helped the players bond and Harry is a decent manager. He's certainly getting the best out of them. No denying that.
 
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