** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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You can say Tevez would be replaced, but by who?

Dzeko and Balotelli aren't exactly bad and they can't seem to do any good upfront for City, the playstyle is odd (in that they don't have one :p) and you've got to really work hard to get any chances, there aren't many strikers that work really hard like Tevez, Cavani maybe (at a rough guess)?
No idea,
Mancini is the one paid to make that decision :)

I see where your coming from and agree :eek: slightly but we will just have to see.

I think City would be much better off adopting an Arsenal style philosophy where you have mostly young player but supplemented with good experienced players. The only difference is City are actually rich enough to be able to afford players that are not only experienced, but GOOD which is where Arsenal are totally failing at the moment. City need a much better youth system, how many of their youth products are playing week in, week out in the first 11 at the moment?
Well our team is quite young tbh, Richards, Balotelli, Johnson, Silva, Kolarov, Kompany are all 25 or under but all of them are experienced also internationally and european.

Our youth system is widely regarded as one of the better ones in the country IIRC. We have produced players like SWP, Richards, Hart, Sturridge, Onouha, M Johnson (was quality before injuries) all of which are prem quality. Richards and Hart are the ones playing week in week out mainly atm.
We have players like Harry Bunn and Juan Roman who will be playing next year for the first time and Reece Wabara will also get a few games.
We have already bought a few players this summer that will go into our next-gen team and will maybe play next year. They are Denis Suarez and Karim Rekik, we also have Gai Assulin who looks a good prospect.

I see what your saying though :)


With regards to Cavani, he has on loan at Napoli last year from Palermo IIRC and they took the option of a 11m buy clause. He has since signed a new contract i think. I dont think anyone has bought him because he maybe a one season wonder....
 
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Sky Italy reporting Alexis Sanchez is Villas-Boas first transfer target. Seeing as his transfer to Barca has hit another wall and Sanchez doesn't play to play for City; Chelsea could swoop in and steal him here!

Sanchez, Neymar and Modric at Chelsea. Yes please! ^_^
 
Have you seen City play very often? At the very least, Toure's been deployed as a box to box midfielder and more often than not, he's played as an out and out attacking midfielder.

No I haven't in all honesty. Last game I remember was the FA Cup final.
 
Well tbh i cannot think of any defenders out there better, unless of course you talk about Puyol, Vidic, Pique, Carvalho etc
I await to be told Jagielka or someone.

I'm surprised you never tabled a bid for Luiz before Chelsea got him, that said City only go for players they see United interested in so I guess that explains it :p

Although I cant recall seeing him personally Tiago Silva seems to get a lot of praise over here and by all accounts can play in the defensive midfield role as well which I would imagine is something Mancini will particularly like ;)

There's plenty of good defenders out there, they're pretty much ten a penny without even touching on the 'meh' ones in this country like Jagielka & Cahill

Premier League 2010-2011, goals conceded by the teams in the top 4,

Manyoo = 37
Chelsea = 33
Citeh = 33
Arsenal = 43

those stats hardly indicate a defensive crisis

I never said it was a crisis, just that with City's money they should have better than Lescott (in the starting XI anyway). Depending on how far they get in the Champions League he'll be found out against a Real Madrid or Barcelona
 
The nagging Meireles rumours don't seem to be going away but equally they're not really developing into anything solid. First he was linked with Inter and now the talk is that Juve made an offer of Melo + cash which was turned down, however we're said to be willing to do a straight cash deal if the price is right.

I like Raul but still not totally convinced by him. Dalglish didn't seem to fancy him in the middle (which won't be helped by the signings of Henderson and Adam) and while he done a very decent job playing either off the front or playing slightly wider, I can't help but think a more specialist player in those positions would do a better job.
No I haven't in all honesty. Last game I remember was the FA Cup final.

Ok, well you're not the only 1 who thought that he's been used as a DM. He's been tagged with being a defensive midfielder because that's where he made his name at Barca. I have to admit I've been shocked with just how good a footballer he is, I always thought he was just a big guy that ran around a lot.
 
I'd be absolutely gutted if Raul left. Really questioned him when he joined the club but that hot spell during left season really sold him to me. Quality player who has a lot of respect from the other players. Oh and he's cool as ****.
 
I'm surprised you never tabled a bid for Luiz before Chelsea got him, that said City only go for players they see United interested in so I guess that explains it :p

Although I cant recall seeing him personally Tiago Silva seems to get a lot of praise over here and by all accounts can play in the defensive midfield role as well which I would imagine is something Mancini will particularly like ;)

There's plenty of good defenders out there, they're pretty much ten a penny without even touching on the 'meh' ones in this country like Jagielka & Cahill



I never said it was a crisis, just that with City's money they should have better than Lescott (in the starting XI anyway). Depending on how far they get in the Champions League he'll be found out against a Real Madrid or Barcelona
I think Mancini did want him but chose to go for Dzeko because Tevez looked like he was leaving.

I do like Thiago Silva actually but i cannot see him leaving Milan considering they just won the Serie A etc.

Well you maybe right and Mancini might bring one in but i think he is going for stablity at the moment. So keeping Lescott and Kompany together.
 
I'd be absolutely gutted if Raul left. Really questioned him when he joined the club but that hot spell during left season really sold him to me. Quality player who has a lot of respect from the other players. Oh and he's cool as ****.

Where do you see him fitting in next season? I can only see him being a squad player.

His unwillingness to get stuck in (and I don't mean him flying into tackles, just being competitive) has put a huge doubt over his ability to play central midfield and with the likelihood that we'll sign 2 attacking midfielders/wingers and a striker, there's going to be a lot of competition for places in the attacking midfield/wide positions.

If you assume that Carroll and Suarez will play regularly, Meireles will be competiting with our 2 new wingers, Maxi (if he stays), Kuyt and one (if not both) of Gerrard and Henderson for just 2 positions.

At 28, if a decent offer comes in it might make sense to cash in on him if he's not seen as an important first team player.
 
Whilst everyone else is cracking on making transfers, my beloved Spurs are still harping on about the Olympic stadium *sigh*

What annoys me most about it is Karen Brady's smug face. I hate her. I hope she drives that club into the ground.
 
I'd be absolutely gutted if Raul left. Really questioned him when he joined the club but that hot spell during left season really sold him to me. Quality player who has a lot of respect from the other players. Oh and he's cool as ****.

Look just how poor we were without him in the final 2 games of the season if you need to see just how important he was to our good form.
 
Sort of makes sense to sell Raul, just not keen on it, love him and his goal of the season.

Baz i know you say he doesn't get stuck in and be competitive but wasn't there quite a few matches he made more tackles than Lucas and also he covered the most ground in the EPL?

I guess stats don't say everything and i see what you're saying, but i'd happily take him as a squad player and maybe he is suited to certain types of games, ala dirk for the big ones :p
 
Our youth system is widely regarded as one of the better ones in the country IIRC. We have produced players like SWP, Richards, Hart, Sturridge, Onouha, M Johnson

Johnson hasn't proved his prem quality, Onouha is a joke, Swp is a joke, Richards and Sturridge are pretty damned good, Sturridge however spent 6 years at Villa and Coventry before City, where he barely played, Hart was 19(ish) when he joined City, having been trained and played a lot of games elsewhere.

So that leaves, as "real" City youth players, Onouha, SWP(he only joined at 17 after being at Forrest) and Richards that City have brought though in, years and years. One of the better youth setups in the country..... I really don't think so, I mean, SWP joined City in 1998.


However City have a decent aged squad, but squad age has literally no bearing on quality or ability to win things. Arsenal don't have good enough players, its really that simple, a couple of experienced players wouldn't make Song a brilliant player. LIkewise RVP, Arshavin and quite a few other members of the squad aren't young anyway(or anymore). Fabregas is still young yet has won a world cup and euro cup, played in champs league finals 5 years ago. You can't get much more experienced, nor better.


Looks like Barca have started bidding officially for Cesc, theres no one available anywhere who even approaches how good he is so we have literally no chance of replacing him. We need to basically replace the loss in quality by getting a good replacement but improving all the other midfield positions. New DM< new central attacking mid and two wingers with Wilshire in midfield aswell.
 
Johnson hasn't proved his prem quality, Onouha is a joke, Swp is a joke, Richards and Sturridge are pretty damned good, Sturridge however spent 6 years at Villa and Coventry before City, where he barely played, Hart was 19(ish) when he joined City, having been trained and played a lot of games elsewhere.

So that leaves, as "real" City youth players, Onouha, SWP(he only joined at 17 after being at Forrest) and Richards that City have brought though in, years and years. One of the better youth setups in the country..... I really don't think so, I mean, SWP joined City in 1998.
Right ok then,
Well why are they all in the Premier League then and apart from Onouha play for England??

Ok so not all the players started when they were like 7 but how many teams actually produce any players that do start at that age?

Most came in at under 15 level and then they were made into the players they are now....all apart from Onouha are England Internationals.

BTW our Academy also regularly finished in the top 2 of the reserves league and has won the FA Youth Trophy so not bad for a not so good youth academy is it?

Out of interest, which clubs do have one of the better youth setups?
 
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