So Arsenal have had no influence on Fab what so ever? I have heard some rubbish from you lately but that is the best that has come out for a while. At 16 Fab had already learnt all he could in his trade and none of the Arsenal staff or players made him into a better player
You really might want to go and watch some games from Fabregas's debut season and see how much of the finished article he was the day we bought him. Arsenal have had VERY little to do with how good he is.
Messi, Fabregas, Ronaldo, theres a few players frankly that would be the same player no matter what club they were at, there are phenom's in every sport, every profession, every speciality in the world, guys who are just brilliant at something with little to no teaching. Fabregas, within 3 months of being in the first team was in the top 3-4 players in the team, thats not from Arsenal training.
Again ignoring most of my post, if someone joined at 24, played till he was 30, and was only a little better at 30 than at 24, you wouldn't remotely pretend that player was a product of the YOUTH SYSTEM(this is what YOU said), neither was Fabregas.
Please point out in my post where I said he hasn't learnt anything at all from Arsenal staff. You changed the argument to suit your point, you said Fabregas was the product of our youth system, was Pires, was Henry, was Gallas. No these were all guys who learnt football elsewhere, came to Arsenal and two of those improved, countless other older players joined, played almost straight away and improved, none of whom were a product of our YOUTH system, neither was Fabregas, pretending otherwise is just daft.
Wilshire trained for years at Arsenal, and really no where else, and we didn't buy him at 16 and put him in the first team, he IS a product of our youth system.
