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Horses for courses. Maybe for Man U, but I think Laca suits Arsenals swift and incisive football far better than Lukaku would have.
Summer Transfer Window 2017/18 - Rumours & Signings
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Hit long balls to, you mean?Large and able to score goals, I think.
Still to be seen whether Lacazette can be a long term success in the EPL - with Lukaku that's already guaranteed, although he can also improve himself and with a "better" team around him
Well done for describing Lukaku to a "t" (minor point, Lukaku may already be at his physical peak)
and the cost is irrelevant if the club have it (and taking the top scorer from a league rival , most would expect to pay top $, rather than 1/2 price for a promising import)
It's not really guaranteed though is it Frank. Sure it's a safer bet than somebody coming from abroad but plenty of players have moved within the Prem and flopped. How will Lukaku cope with the pressure that he's going to be under because just like Pogba, his fee will be used as a stick to beat him with if he doesn't hit the ground running - some players thrive under the extra pressure and responsibility, others wilt.
"With the new stadium in the pipeline, it's an exciting time to be an Everton player, to be an Everton fan."
"Winning trophies with Everton would be the pinnacle," said Rooney, who played 559 times for United, scoring a club record 253 goals.
"I really feel now the club is moving in the right direction, bringing the right calibre of players in. I want to be part of it and hopefully part of a successful Everton team."
Jog on you manc ****. That BBC article is infuriating. I didn't begrudge him the move after thinking about it after initial frustration but the home coming quotes make me puke. I bet he score against united and badge kisses like some form of redemption.
"Winning trophies with Everton would be the pinnacle," said Rooney, who played 559 times for United, scoring a club record 253 goals.
"I really feel now the club is moving in the right direction, bringing the right calibre of players in. I want to be part of it and hopefully part of a successful Everton team."
Jog on you manc ****. That BBC article is infuriating. I didn't begrudge him the move after thinking about it after initial frustration but the home coming quotes make me puke. I bet he score against united and badge kisses like some form of redemption.
It depends on just how much Utd are contributing to his wages. If he's not going to feature then £300k per week is a hell of a lot of money and an amount that no other side is going to pay him. Utd's choice was save a slice of the £15m a year he earns and let him go for free or pay him that to sit around.
The other theory is that it's a condition of the Lukaku deal. That's certainly something that's being pushed by Liverpool based journos - they're placing a £10m value on the Rooney part of the deal, which although he's left for free, that could be the pay-off that they're referring to.
two significant differences with the deals (Pogba and Lukaku) - 1) latter gets a full pre-season in 2) he is already used to the EPL
He is less likely to wilt after playing in the EPL and visiting OT multiple times , and he is already relatively mature - but yes its still a possibility but if anyone knows before they arrive he knows what to expect
Given that he has improved every year for the last 5, unless he gets a significant injury he is going to contribute to 25 ish + EPL goals
rumours seem to suggest that he cost £10m but that's probably about what Utd are subsidising his final year's salary - so its effectively a free transfer
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Also Baz, given our first handful of games - its imperative given last season's draws that Utd kill teams off in those early games. So getting a striker already familiar will hopefully count for a bigger significance.
This way Utd have given themselves the best chance of doing that
This way Utd have given themselves the best chance of doing that
Lukaku deal is good for all parties in my opinion. Everton have got an absolute wedge to spend and Koeman generally buys well, although how he uses Rooney will be interesting. Lukaku gets to go on to the next level, which he absolutely deserve. United get a young 20 goal a season striker who on his day can absolutely bully defences.
Yes, it's a big fee, yes he's not the finished article, and yes there's risk, but United have the money for him, and he could win them a few titles in the coming years.
Yes, it's a big fee, yes he's not the finished article, and yes there's risk, but United have the money for him, and he could win them a few titles in the coming years.
Huh
I wasn't saying Pogba flopped if that's what you've read or compared him to Lukaku? I only mentioned Pogba because of the fee and how it creates added pressure on a player and will be used against him.I know Lukaku's used to the League but you can sign players from abroad that will have a full pre-season too
I was simply saying that it's not guaranteed that Lukaku will produce. Yes there is less risk than a player from abroad but just like when Moyes moved from Everton to Utd or when countless other players have moved from lesser clubs to bigger clubs in the same League, the expectations and pressures you're under at Utd are far greater than at Everton (x10 because of the fee) and only time will tell whether he can handle it.
and I was saying why the ease of transition should be considerably easier than Pogba - that's all.
I'm not sure whether the likes of Lukaku or Pogba really care that much about the price tag. They have egos the size of sky scrapers, and while media / external forces go on and on about it I'm not sure the players care that much (undoubtedly some do, but I don't think these two do/ will do)
edit not to mention that Pogba was played out of position for the majority of the season, so he was curbing his natural attacking instincts somewhat, which created a lot of the flak to start with, with Lukaku destined for his natural spot, he should be able to show his abilities to the fore from the start and carry on from there.
With a very close friend already in the team , already gone through the same issues - Lukaku should have a much easier time from that side of things
I'm not sure whether the likes of Lukaku or Pogba really care that much about the price tag. They have egos the size of sky scrapers, and while media / external forces go on and on about it I'm not sure the players care that much (undoubtedly some do, but I don't think these two do/ will do)
edit not to mention that Pogba was played out of position for the majority of the season, so he was curbing his natural attacking instincts somewhat, which created a lot of the flak to start with, with Lukaku destined for his natural spot, he should be able to show his abilities to the fore from the start and carry on from there.
With a very close friend already in the team , already gone through the same issues - Lukaku should have a much easier time from that side of things
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Added pressure for Lukaku is that he flopped at Chelski.
Utd are going to have to play him and stick with him otherwise people are going to say he can only play at a mid table level.
Attitude would imply the reason it never worked at chelski. Maybe his friendship with pogba will give him that.
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Two top teams buy new strikers, natural to compare them.
At the end of the day a striker is a striker. Yes there are many different types but you can still make useful general comparisons between them based on how effective they are. It will be interesting to see how lacazette adapts to the PL. Haven't really seen that much of him but there was quite a lot of buzz about him last summer so I assume he has carried that over last season.