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Pigeon_Killer said:
Different types of striker. Owen and Torres were deadly finishers but relied heavily on their pace. Once injuries caught up with them, and their pace went, they weren't left with much. RVP had far more to his game and was still banging them in for Feyenoord at 35.

The likes of Kane and Lewandowski might not be graced with pace but they do have the size and strength, as well as world class finishing, which means injuries should impact their game less. I personally expect Kane to be banging them in at the highest level until his mid thirties, unless his legs completely fall off.
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It doesn't matter if he relies on pace or not if he's out with ankle ligament damage for 5 months. Kane's not relied on pace up until this point and it's not stopped him regularly picking up injuries and in particular picking up ankle injuries. The fact that he's picked up the same injury so many times shows that previous injuries have already taken their toll on his body and he's more susceptible to picking up repeat injuries. Who knows, maybe these injuries won't become more frequent or more serious, maybe he'll never have another ankle injury again. I find that doubtful though.
 
Flaevius said:
Is there a punchline in there somewhere? He's the top scorer in Serie A (6 ahead of anyone else) with 29 in 33. He scored 31 in 33 the previous season, 21 in 31 in his debut season. He's netted over 100 goals for Juve in 3 seasons, if that 'hasn't worked out' at the arse end of his career then....

There are some bizarre views in this thread.
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They are paying him £500k/week and he cost them £100m. Hes playing in the Italian league which is pretty crap outside of 2-3 teams, hes their main man like he was at Madrid so everything goes through him. The numbers he is putting down are not astonishing and for the money they paid for him they were expecting to win the CL. Juventus are also sitting in 5th in the Italian league currently.

I would say he hasn't been a success at Juventus.

There is a reason RM sold him and its because they felt like the positives of having Ronaldo in the team didn't outweigh the negatives. Rooney was still putting in decent figures at United as he declined but it was clear to anyone who watched us play that he was holding the team back. You can say "wow he scored 30 goals this season" but if the team would have scored 40 instead of 30 without him then hes not worth it. It doesn't matter who scores the goals. A goal is a goal.

Hes still a phenominal player but there are similar questions being asked in Portugal right now. They play better without him in the team but they can't drop him.
 
Ronaldo has gotten 28, 37 and 36 in his 3 seasons at Juve. It is not his fault they have a manager out of his depth and an aging has been squad.

When Rooney was in his final years at United he wasn't even scoring that high. Just holding us back.

I would have Ronaldo at United in heart beat but not for money only on a free.
 
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adam cool dude said:
Ronaldo has gotten 28, 37 and 36 in his 3 seasons at Juve. It is not his fault they have a manager out of his depth and an aging has been squad.

When Rooney was in his final years at United he wasn't even scoring that high. Just holding us back.

I would have Ronaldo at United in heart beat but not for money only on a free.
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Swap deal for mata they need world Cup winning experience.
 
No guarantees with Kane, plenty of prolific English strikers have tailed off in their 30s. Few examples I just looked up of those once they hit 30:

Fowler, never scored 10 league goals in a season
Owen, never scored 10 league goals in a season
Rooney, best he did was 12 league goals in the MLS

Didn't bother looking up Shearer as he was still decent but then to be fair he retired from internationals at like 30 to prolong his Newcastle career.
Some did OK like Defoe, Ferdinand etc so it's pot luck.
 
HangTime said:
No guarantees with Kane, plenty of prolific English strikers have tailed off in their 30s. Few examples I just looked up of those once they hit 30:

Fowler, never scored 10 league goals in a season
Owen, never scored 10 league goals in a season
Rooney, best he did was 12 league goals in the MLS

Didn't bother looking up Shearer as he was still decent but then to be fair he retired from internationals at like 30 to prolong his Newcastle career.
Some did OK like Defoe, Ferdinand etc so it's pot luck.
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Vardy isn't bad ;)
 
omnomnom said:
Owen wasn't overrated. Injured yes, overrated no.
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Absolutely in his second stint in the EPL he was injured a lot, his first stint with liverpool in 7 full seasons he played 216 games out of a possible 266. Take Shearer who people wouldn't consider a crock like owen, he played for newcastle over 10 seasons. 303 out of a possible 380 games. Still managed to hit over 20 goals multiple times.

I don't think owen ever got anywhere near his full potential and I don't it's just down to injuries. I guess I'm biased I think he's a horrible little ****
 
IronSpider said:
Absolutely in his second stint in the EPL he was injured a lot, his first stint with liverpool in 7 full seasons he played 216 games out of a possible 266. Take Shearer who people wouldn't consider a crock like owen, he played for newcastle over 10 seasons. 303 out of a possible 380 games. Still managed to hit over 20 goals multiple times.

I don't think owen ever got anywhere near his full potential and I don't it's just down to injuries. I guess I'm biased I think he's a horrible little ****
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216 out of 266 isnt great as a young player. Injuries ruined his career.
 
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