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United have needed a right winger for a long time really, nice to actually see someone decent to fill the role.
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I don't believe that is true at all. If Matip made a mistake that led to a goal would you be more forgiving because he was cheaper than VVD? I don't think so. The expectation on a first team player is the same regardless of their price.
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Expectations vary on a few things, such as age, experience, contract and transfer fee.
I don't think for example the expectations would be the same for John oshea that they would be for rio ferdinand for example.
Same way you wouldn't judge Mbappe by the same standards you'd judge Mois Kean.
Of course you'd be more demanding of a player who cost a record fee than someone who did not.
Shami, you're massively overcompensating here. There's plenty of arguments you can make to counter The Running Man's points but trying to suggest that price doesn't influence expectations is a bit silly.
Answering your point, there are base expectations you have for any player at a club like Liverpool but the expectations on VVD are clearly much higher. You only have to look at people trying to criticise VVD for Zaha's goal vs us the other week. There is not another CB in the world that would have received any criticism for that goal but VVD's fee and his subsequent performances have raised expectations to a point that some people expected him to be superman.
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I think you're both wrong, I've never seen a player let off from criticism because he cost less. Eriksen missed a golden chance against Southampton, would it have been worse if Bruno had missed that because he cost more? I don't think so. The media love to talk about transfer fees (and height now) but for fans I don't think it matters one jot. Once you're on the field the expectations are the same whether you cost 20m or 50m or came from the academy.
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Do you think we would be so annoyed with the Pepe situation if he had cost £20m instead of £72m. Of course we bloody wouldn’t!
That level of price tag brings increased expectations, whether you like it or not. We’re not worried about Tavares being a let down, because £8m is a drop in the ocean.
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Bruno performances have been criticised a lot lately until the Liverpool game.
Eriksen has managed to fly under the radar with a number of bad performances and zero goals or assists in 4 games so far.
That no one ever mentions eriksens lack of output IS materially because our expectations are lower. You can argue he plays a bit deeper, but you can also argue he played up top in 1 game and has played over 84 mins in every game so far.
When Fred lost the ball and cost utd a goal after a bad de gea pass he was castigated for it. He cost 50m right. When eriksen did it, everyone was
Like well that's Eriksen.
If Eriksen cost us 99m euro I bet he would have received a load of flack.
Thats crazy money for a player who isn't a generational talent or the finished product.
Means that FdJ isn't happening and I assume that is the last of any business for this window.
We are still crying out for another CM IMO and unless he can make Fred/McTominay up their game massively we will struggle this season.
Just doesn't make sense to spend such a huge amount on a winger when there are other positions we are far shorter in. Our problem is getting control of the midfield and therefore the game. Its not what we do with it when we get the ball further up the field.
Means that FdJ isn't happening and I assume that is the last of any business for this window.
We are still crying out for another CM IMO and unless he can make Fred/McTominay up their game massively we will struggle this season.
Just doesn't make sense to spend such a huge amount on a winger when there are other positions we are far shorter in. Our problem is getting control of the midfield and therefore the game. Its not what we do with it when we get the ball further up the field.
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What you're seeing is the plot armour for new signings, it happens regardless of their cost. Also Eriksen hasn't been bad at all, you're just judging every player on goals and assists for some reason. For example Bruno is getting a lot of criticism for his performances, and before him Andreas Pereira got the same criticisms and he was a kid from the academy. There is no difference because of the transfer tag in the treatment of players from fans, it's entirely a media thing.
The expectations from fans and the added internal pressure from a huge fee are very much real. Whether the club places more pressure on them in up for debate. You can see from the past few years of poor performances that certain players go missing when the pressure builds. You can see the likes of McTominay try to avoid situations that might heap more criticism on them by making sure they don't put themselves in the firing line.
£80 is huge money and the fans will expect a lot and mentally, thats a big fee for a player to have over their head.
£80 is huge money and the fans will expect a lot and mentally, thats a big fee for a player to have over their head.
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You really had the same expectation for when Elanga had his debut that you will for Antony despite Antony being the 12th most expensive player in the world, ever?
I mean I don't even know what to say.
But the majority on here seem to have differing viewpoints.
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Yes of course, if Elanga is on one wing and Antony is on the other I'm not going to just accept a poor performance from Elanga because he cost less. You step on the pitch the expectation is the same. if you're kid and you're not at that level then I want you to go on loan until you are good enough.
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Would you be happy to send Antony on loan if he wasn’t good enough?
If Antony has the same g/a as elanga come the end of the season, for arguements sake we'll say less than 10, you'd be happy with the 100m man equalling that?
The question is not so much whether you would accept a poor performance from a cheaper player, as everyone should be 'good enough' regardless but more so whether you accept an expensive player only delivering 'good enough'.
If you're happy to judge everyone against 'good enough', and not expect more for your money there are probably far cheaper players to be getting through the door. What's the point in spending fortunes if you don't expect them to bring higher standards and better outputs for the money?
No point buying a Ferrari if you're only worried about everyone achieving Audi performance.
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100m, should be 3 X as good as Salah then. 
Even the standard of United's fans expectations are equalling the teams achievements now.
Not expecting anything more than 'good enough' of a 100m euro player, come on. This is just silly.
There will be huge expectations placed on his shoulders.
Not expecting anything more than 'good enough' of a 100m euro player, come on. This is just silly.
There will be huge expectations placed on his shoulders.
you just screwed the pooch with that statement mate. Expectations and subsequent treatment of players by fans is absolutely affected by their transfer fee, especially in the short term.