You don't get "gains" from whey protein FFS. :/
Supplements the debate/discussion thread
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Hmm strange
your email upto date in your trust? I'll try again.Edit: I've already got your gmail address added. Sure that's the right one?
lies
I think people will generally find the extra calories helping them to actually grow and recover quicker which are mistaken as a result of consuming 'whey' when in actual fact consuming the same amount of protein/calories will do the same thing.
Whey is whey.
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Whey in itself doesn't give you gains, it just boosts the amount of protein you consume, the calorific value (unless taken in milk) isn't really significant IMO 5% of your calorific intake (for me anyway, and I take it with water - though I've moved over the hemp now).
As discussed before 30g of protein has been shown to be the optimum amount for protein synthesis per meal/feed - though hitting 40g or more will provide more synthesis, in terms of efficiency and amount of synthesis per g 30g is the golden number. Personally I sacrifice the optimal for a bit more to get the calories in for every meal (around 40g for 4-5 meals = 160-200g) any shake I take (typically only post work out) will be a bonus.
A good diet and training will give you the "gains" - whey is just food supplementation, nothing more. It's not like a hormone based supplement - then again they only provide "gains" if the diet and training is up to par.
It's just an irksome term for me
wtf? i started takin whey last week nd my bicepz av grown an inch alredy so must b workin....
What exercise makes them sore? chances are technique could be imrpoved, especially if its bench or some similar push exercise.
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Skullcrushers or similar bet ya.
I've just started on their 10lb blend bags, which is a mix of concentrate and isolate. On it's own it doesn't taste bad, but not brilliant, quite milky. When something says 'chocolate smooth' I'd like to be overwhelmed with flavour. It's like someones just thrown some cocopowder in. Coming from Phd Pharma whey which has exceptional flavouring it's a bit of a blow! More cash in my pocket though.
You want Glucosamine my friend not just the Omega 3
. I had a lot of aches in the joints over the years combining these two honestly made the difference
.Ive just ordered Phd Pharma whey double choc flavour, ive had there synergy before and that was an awesome taste but it gave me the runs.
Their stuff tastes great with milk. Still above the rest with water. The Belgian Chocolate 6HR Blend is the daddy.
I've got my superstack ready for GVT. Bring it on! If I weren't going skiing in a week I'd start it now!
I've got my superstack ready for GVT. Bring it on! If I weren't going skiing in a week I'd start it now!
could you tell us a bit more about it, is it a weight gainer?
Theres a gym instructor at my gym who has a huge bag of weight gainer its like 6kg.
I don't need weight gainer. Weight gainer is for gays I managed to get to over 100kg without them too
It's mainly amino acids, and nitrix oxide synergists, futhermore, to help minimise catabolism, increase endurance and recovery as well as protein synthesis. It's designed to aid my training, give me that extra bit of focus, recovery and endurance. It adds maybe 5% to my work out at best - remember these are just supplements. However, it does very much help with the recovery along with my revised eating plan they should work together to provide a good amino acid, vitamin profile, boost my anabolic state and help take advantage of my natural anabolic state, owing principally from eating well at the right times and sleeping well.
I managed to get to over 100kg without them too It's mainly amino acids, and nitrix oxide synergists, futhermore, to help minimise catabolism, increase endurance and recovery as well as protein synthesis. It's designed to aid my training, give me that extra bit of focus, recovery and endurance. It adds maybe 5% to my work out at best - remember these are just supplements. However, it does very much help with the recovery along with my revised eating plan they should work together to provide a good amino acid, vitamin profile, boost my anabolic state and help take advantage of my natural anabolic state, owing principally from eating well at the right times and sleeping well.
It was a little dear, but I spend about £200 on supps a year so it's not as if I spend a fortune, so I could allow myself a bit of a break! If I'm going to do this program I'm going to do it right!
I've basically copied a lot of pre-made stacks, but making it for myself, adding better ingredients and more suited for my diet, build, size and training needs. You just can't buy this stuff premade - you have to tweak it to your needs. I felt like a mad scientist last night, blending all my bits and pieces. I just need to blend a few bits and pieces and I'll be good to go. One new type of sup are antioxidants to try and minimise cortisol in the evenings which should encourage better sleep. We'll see!
I've basically copied a lot of pre-made stacks, but making it for myself, adding better ingredients and more suited for my diet, build, size and training needs. You just can't buy this stuff premade - you have to tweak it to your needs. I felt like a mad scientist last night, blending all my bits and pieces. I just need to blend a few bits and pieces and I'll be good to go. One new type of sup are antioxidants to try and minimise cortisol in the evenings which should encourage better sleep. We'll see!