Supplements the debate/discussion thread

I agree about OAKG - but it also tastes foul! You do have to take a fair amount of it in my experience, but at the time I was 220lbs or so.

ALCAR is good - but my days of lots of supps are done - I just don't have the interest, time or money for it anymore! :o
 
Quite a few ideas on how to to take beta alanine. Anyone looked into this?

MP says:
Loading phase (days 1-5): Consume 1.5g (half of a small MP Plastic Scoop) 4 times daily, spaced evenly throughout the day. Best taken with water or fruit juice in-between meals.

Maintenance phase (days 6-35): Consume 1.5g (half of a small MP Plastic Scoop) 2 times daily, spaced evenly throughout the day. Best taken with water or fruit juice in-between meals.

Upon completion of this period take a 2 week break before starting your next Beta Alanine period .

TPW says:
On workout days:
Take 4g-5g daily, divided between 1-2 servings. Take 2g-2.5g approx 20 minutes before exercise and 2g-2.5g immediately after exercise

On non workout days:
Take 4g-5g ideally with food

I've seen it suggested like this:

Take 1.5g four times daily for 6 weeks, then reduce to; two 1.5g servings daily.
 
The effects of RR take a good week or so to have an impact - they are adaptogens. I personally find it fantastic as a "calm me down" feel better supplement. :)

Let me know how you get on with it.
 
You need to buy a capping kit and all the caps to go with it - then the powder, then a scale to measure your initial template. I've done it in the past (sold the kit now) and whilst it's fun to make up your own ratios and mixes - you've got to be pretty hard core to do it - it's dead boring :p
 
6ft 7. Nurse told me 16 stone should be my ideal weight? I know it doesnt say that on the BMI calc but i look hell scrawny. All dangly and stuff.:p

Im eating loads, it just isnt working. The question was meant to say im basically going to take protein anyway. Instead of a 98% should i get a high carb one?

Ta.

Well there's no ideal weight really as every person's body is different and different characteristics. I've seen 6'7" guys at 14st who don't look skinny - but then again I've seen the same @ 19st who didn't look massive either. So it's almost impossible to tell.

Clearly you feel you look scrawny, so sure, you need to eat more.

I'd work out your BMR/RMR firstly.

I don't buy the "I eat loads" - I doubt you are.

A shake will not help.

Yeah, i will re-start doing this.

Just been planning on gaining as much weight and not hitting the gym i stopped counting.

Breakfast Everyday inclu weekends - 4 eggs 2 slices of toast.

Dinner - Chicken, broccoli and white rice. - 4/5 days

Tea - Usually pasta with either pork / chicken

I know this isnt a lot, but im feeling so full. Bear in mind i used to be 18stone could eat like a king. Now im eating like a 5 year old reason im thinking about the WG.

Will start counting on Monday when im back at the gym.

Cheers.

I think I eat more than that for my breakfast.

If you feel full a shake isn't going to help that.

You need more veg (will help with clearing you out, and are vital to a good diet/health). Good fats (like oily fish, nuts, avocados etc...).

Snack more on decent quality foods - and have bigger portions if you can only manage to eat 3x a day.

You're just not eating enough. A quick back of a fag packet calculation puts your RMR (resting metabolic rate) at about 2100-2200 calories. This is just needed if you're not doing anything - just staying alive (all vital organ processes etc...), and maintaining weight, and not losing weight.

Add activity to that and your calories go into deficit, meaning you'll lose weight. Adding activity also dramatically increases the needed intake of calories. Just doing light exercise 3x a day increases your need to 3000 cals a day - to maintain weight.

So to gain weight, plus doing anything more than light exercise you'll need 3.5-4k calories a day. Bear in mind that if you eat over your base rate of calories, and are in a calorie surplus with no exercise, you will gain fat.
 
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