Supplements the debate/discussion thread

reiyushin said:
Anyone used superfoods or anything like it?
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Yes I've tried it, tastes quite nice. I suppose it's better than nothing if you really can't eat enough fruit & veg for whatever reason. I used it when I worked away all week, that is a nightmare trying to eat healthy. I also used to take Mega Greens with MSM.

I'd much rather just spend the money on fresh veg but there are times when that isn't possible.
 
Glucose - Glucose elevates the blood sugar levels very quickly, which causes the pancreas to release the hormone insulin. Insulin's function is to regulate the blood sugar levels by removing the high sugar and Pro Recovers fast acting protein's, these are taken out of the blood (with the sugar) and are delivered to the muscles where they are required.

Hydrolysed Whey - The most digestible whey protein (hydrolysed), which is partially pre-digested for better absorption allowing the body to use it's complete range of amino acids for faster absorption and recovery.

Whey Isolate - A higher percentage form of protein (over 90%).

Hydroylsed and Isolate whey are both fast acting proteins which means they are absorbed very quickly which is ideal for post workout meals.

Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) - One of the functions is that being a powerful natural Antioxidant. This means, it helps the body rid itself of harmful cell damaging 'Free Radicals' that arise from intense forms of exercise.

Vitamin E (Tocopherol) 'Toe-co-fur-ol' - Vitamin E works best with Vitamin C and has powerful natural Antioxidant properties assisting the body to rid itself of harmful cell damaging 'Free Radicals' that arise from intense forms of exercise. It also maintains a healthy blood supply enabling the body to distribute nutrients (proteins) to the damaged muscles for fast recovery.


Per 2 scoops (80g) and per Shake & Take bottle:
Calories 297
Protein 23.59g
Carbohydrates 48.45g
(of which sugars) 48.45g
Fat 1.05g
(of which saturates) 0.83g
Vitamin C 250mg
Vitamin E 10mg
 
arknor said:
and lowers testosterone levels for hours
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Glucose.aspx
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I'd be pretty cautious about those conclusions, and even more cautious about reading quackademic sites such as that.

First off, that paper was never published. All I can find are press releases and news articles. This probably means it never made it past peer review - indicating a potentially seriously flawed study. I've searched but cannot find the original paper, if you can find it I'd be happy to critically appraise it - I'm doing an endocrinology degree as a medic.
 
arknor said:
i cant find the paper but this is the person who did the study
http://www2.massgeneral.org/reproendo/reu_Hayes.htm
http://www.endo-society.org/media/ENDO-09/Testosteronedecreasesafteringestionofsugar.cfm
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Yeah, I found the same. I may email her and ask for a copy. It seems interesting, and I'm curious as to why it never made it to publication. I suspect publication bias - where generally only studies with positive results make it to publication and those that don't have positive results stay in the file drawer.

An interesting point to keep in mind - some studies have shown that intense exercise can also acutely reduce testosterone levels, but no one ever blames exercise for hypogonadism.
 
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lanzarobbie said:
Hi I'm looking at buying some whey, and maybe some other supplements, what do you recommend and where from, I need delivery to europe.
I'm looking on the river site as iv'e ordered from there before.

Thanks
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Try www.myprotein.com/ they may deliver to you.

Impact whey is the best value stuff, I'd go for flavoured too.

I can't really recommend any other supplements without knowing more about your diet. Most likely you'll be good with just some added whey and possibly some ultra fine oats.

Use this code for a 5% discount - MP53084
 
Thanks lie, they've got a Spanish site so I will place an order, how long does 5kg of whey last.

My diet is breakfast 2 1/2 weetabix
lunch a ham baguette, apple, banana and a yoghurt
dinner chicken or fish with jacket potato and rice or veg

Ive also started eating about 100g of almonds a day.

Iv'e found a shop that sells lucozade sport, iv'e been drinking this and water during a workout, I don't know if this is a good idea or if its just for cardio rather than weight training.
 
Your diet probably needs looking at if you want to make some good progress. Post over in the gym rats thread and you'll get some good advice.

5kg will last months :)
 
Going to start going on a Bulk fairly soon, as going on a course soon so I doubt I'll get to go on holiday anyway.

Going to order some fine scottish oats, some peanut butter and flax oil.

Thinking two scoops powder, 1 (or 2) scottish oats, 2 table spoons of peanut putter and teaspoon of flax oil should see me for a good 600kcal+ not worked it out totally yet.

Already ordered some fast acting carbs (dextrose and Maltodextrin) for my PWO shake.

Thinking two shakes a day (plus one PWO after everyworkout), added on to a new diet plan for a good few months should see me get over 90kgs. Definatly time for me to nail my diet down, its been decent for a while but not great. Not going to worry about macros, just less ****, no fizzy drinks. More Low G.I carbs, more meat and loads more fruit and veg.
 
I'd be only having the one shake a day really Begbie, the other lot can be made up in food :)

Budget depending mind
 
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