Supplements the debate/discussion thread
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i disagree, i sell this as my cheaper range of protein and not had any complaints!
great taste for a great price. Admit the choc is a lot better though!
It's waxy maize starch instead of dextrose. Absolutely zero real difference,small doses of creatine + Leucine (which you can buy cheaply).
It's the same price per kg as impact whey, which is ridiculous considering it has a 2:1 carb to protein ratio.
It's the same price per kg as impact whey, which is ridiculous considering it has a 2:1 carb to protein ratio.
I had to check that because I didn't quite believe it, what a dirty rip off!
http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/recovery_xs
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/waxy_maize_starch_myth.htm
The wording in MP's description of their WMS is very... careful!
I find that just some good ole plain whey is good enough for me. Sure when I was powerlifting the extra carbs helped a lot, but now not so much.
Sorry mate but not having carbs post workout is silly. Even in the strictest cutting diets, they are more important than protein in a PWO shake. Sure the world won't end without them but then again the world won't end by skipping a PWO completely so...
NO!
Mars bars have lots of fats in them - the last thing you want in your post workout drink.
I'm all for throwing a sweet cheat in the post workout drink though. Cake icing, jellies, sugar packed sweets, jam, honey - sure they won't be as good as dextrose but they'll be close enough and you'll enjoy the treat whilst still giving you that desired insulin spike.
If you are a diet robot that has no problem in sticking to his extremely dull regimen then disregard the above.
For the rest of us who are human - enjoy yourselves. anything with tons of sugar and low fat.
NO!
Mars bars have lots of fats in them - the last thing you want in your post workout drink.
I'm all for throwing a sweet cheat in the post workout drink though. Cake icing, jellies, sugar packed sweets, jam, honey - sure they won't be as good as dextrose but they'll be close enough and you'll enjoy the treat whilst still giving you that desired insulin spike.
If you are a diet robot that has no problem in sticking to his extremely dull regimen then disregard the above.
For the rest of us who are human - enjoy yourselves. anything with tons of sugar and low fat.
I've noticed no negatives about Not having sugars or carbs after. I just take the whey two hours after I start training. If I'm done or not.
I then walk home, a good 10 minutes at most, shower and cook dinner. Never had a problem and my recovery is fine, with my strength still going up weekly.
I've also only recently gotten whey again, before that I only had some amino's during training. I got on fine without the protein afterwards as well. I just get a good dinner in after training.
Of course you will get on just fine, as you pointed out you get on just fine with no whey at all.
Supplements are not some magic ingredient that does wonders (well at least not the regular type of "supplements") they contribution is limited to 2-5%.
But taking whey without carbs post workout means that you are doing it wrong, a simple Google of "importance of carbohydrates post workout" will bring out countless articles supporting this.
When you are lifting naturally progress is extremely slow after the initial noob gains are gone and thus I for one wouldn't want to rob myself of any progress no matter how small by not having that post workout shake. But that's just me.
Don't take this the wrong way, I have a lot of respect for you as a lifter and I was amazed by the numbers you were pushing in terms of power/weight ratio - I only want the above to be taken as constructive criticism.
Supplements are not some magic ingredient that does wonders (well at least not the regular type of "supplements") they contribution is limited to 2-5%.
But taking whey without carbs post workout means that you are doing it wrong, a simple Google of "importance of carbohydrates post workout" will bring out countless articles supporting this.
When you are lifting naturally progress is extremely slow after the initial noob gains are gone and thus I for one wouldn't want to rob myself of any progress no matter how small by not having that post workout shake. But that's just me.
Don't take this the wrong way, I have a lot of respect for you as a lifter and I was amazed by the numbers you were pushing in terms of power/weight ratio - I only want the above to be taken as constructive criticism.
I appreciate the advice, although I wouldn't say I'm doing it wrong. I already get so much carbs in lately. I see no point in them directly afterwards really.
I did have carbs with my PWO when I started my recovery, but they didn't really do much for me so I used what I had and I haven't bought more since then. I found that the extra protein helps a lot more in direct recovery and I haven't had much trouble with restoring my glycogen levels.
Sure I know the articles supporting it, it's even in my nutrition section of my certification course work. I've never really been a fan of carbs and I have plenty already. Too much for my liking almost.
I might add them one I hit a platue, although that might not happen for a long time, as in 2 months I'll have to change nearly all my training due to a different gym and vastly different equipment.
