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this must be the key ingredient that makes the difference
23kg of muscle in a year for a self confessed hard gainer!!?? I want whatever you're eating/smoking/injecting into your ass.
I'll get you some glasses instead so you can read properly.
Pretty clear
In all seriousness, yes, you can put on a lot of visible mass in a year and not look fat, the problem however is that you will have gained a fair whack of fat (especially if you gained 23KG) that's a fact really.
However, if you are happy with how you look after that year, and you have filled out nicely, then fair enough, it's up to you at the end of the day. I know that if I gained 23kg in a year, most of that would be pork belly
Do you have any progress shots at all? Before / after taking the supplement?
Like I said if you read it properly ud see I said it's supposedly physically possible to gain a lb of muscle a week. However I only gained 12 or 13
I have progress shots from 11.7 stone to 13 with little to no supplements. Food only and the occasional protein shake. I found they didn't work. But I have no shots since takin this
I have progress shots from 11.7 stone to 13 with little to no supplements. Food only and the occasional protein shake. I found they didn't work. But I have no shots since takin this
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Do you have a source for this research?
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Pop in to the funny factory and grab yourself a SoH first pal
.http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/maki2.htm
This Article suggest a max of 1lb a week so maybe not average as I may have suggested but it's a huge step past 3kg a year
This Article suggest a max of 1lb a week so maybe not average as I may have suggested but it's a huge step past 3kg a year
Protein shakes didn't work? What do you mean they didn't work?
Of course they worked, they gave your body some protein (along with anything else that was in the shake, sugar, fat, meh) if you wanted to just gain weight, you should have thrown some oats in there or something
Of course they worked, they gave your body some protein (along with anything else that was in the shake, sugar, fat, meh) if you wanted to just gain weight, you should have thrown some oats in there or something
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So it's only going to take me 3 years to get from 150lbs soaking wet to 300lbs mr olympia size so long as i get my training sorted and take a mass gainer? Good stuff!
2kg of muscle a month... LOL just lol
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Quote from the very article you are trying to say that a normal joe would be able to gain 1lb a week max
"For most weight-gainers, .5 pounds per week would be an even more realistic goal as they reach their genetic limit. "
Another quote from studies here:
"The Colgan Institute of Nutritional Sciences (located in San Diego, CA) run by Dr Michael Colgan PHD, a leading sport nutritionist explains that in his extensive experience, the most muscle gain he or any of his colleagues have recorded over a year was 18 1/4 lbs. Dr Colgan goes on to state that "because of the limiting rate of turnover in the muscle cells it is impossible to grow more than an ounce of new muscle each day.""
So that's less the half a pound a week.
The article then follows up by advising these studies are normally carried out on professional athletes, now I would be suprised if there was anyone on these forums who could claim to be anything other then a gym rat.
I am a believer that it is possible to gain 1-2lb a month and I get lolled at for that, but 1lb a week, for a self confessed hard gainer.....
Holy god people get over yourselves. It's like a sodding witch hunt round here if anything disagrees with you because it doesn't fit the way you gain.
Admittently like the poster above said, it's more likely half a pound, however it extremes its not out the relms of possibility, (im sure ud have to be in a lab and training all day, my fault for quoting an article that suggested a maximum) are we going to do it with jobs and lifes. No mostly definitely not, HOWEVER and this is what annoying me, just cause you can't do it doesn't mean I can't and the whole point of this sodding arguement was cause someone said I could only put on 3kg A YEAR, when infact after a year and a bit at the gym I went from 11.5stone to 13 of muscle. I am a hard gainer of fat not muscle, (i'm sorry of that ****es you off) I'm very sorry to see that it took LiE 5 years and if I wasnt at work I'd put up progress pics too, I took this weight gainer as I was begining to become triangle. There is a pic of me in the Post your Picture thread.
I thought it might help some people by suggesting the weight gainer as I have put on 5kg in nearly a month, albeit as you so adamantly told me can't be muscle (which I agree with) but its gains none the less, and some people would rather this than nothing at all, especially people like me.
So please, if you could get of my back I'd appreciate it.
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I've seen your pics, and it looks like you've gained a far amount of fat too. If you had gained mostly muscle in that year you'd be ripped. I'm sitting at 13 stone lean, and it took me a long time to get there, not because I'm a slow gainer, but because despite eating clean, training hard, that's just how it is.
But this is the internet and things can get silly without much proof.
But this is the internet and things can get silly without much proof.
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I went from 65kg to 80kg in about a year and a half (maybe a bit less) also and it didn't look like i'd gained any fat if you looked at pics or i looked in the mirror. However i am not delusional.
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