Supplements the debate/discussion thread

I've just dropped them an email to see where they want it sending to and if their going to arrange collection or not.
Also just ordered some whey from allin1 while theyve got their closing sale on
 
tom_e said:
I've just dropped them an email to see where they want it sending to and if their going to arrange collection or not.
Also just ordered some whey from allin1 while theyve got their closing sale on
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Hah yeah I'm straight onto buying some more, that's when you know you're a true junkie ;). I reckon I'll be getting some banana and some chocolate because even my strawberry STC that was all sugar or whatever tasted pretty crap. Although isn't 76% a bit lower than normal % (~82%?)
 
Emailed STC and got this reply:

All I need is the proof of what you had.
If you attach the batch stickers to a sheet of paper with your name/address/paypal invoice number and e-mail address I can check them and refund you for any faulty tubs.
You need to send this by recorded delivery so it doesnt get lost in the post.
Send it to the adress on the side of the tub.
We do not want the tubs themselves....just the stickers and details.
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Excellent customer service!
 
Got my All in 1 order.

They were out of the MRP so chucked me another tub of flavoured whey in :D

Can't fault STC, as you said above, I'll re order from them once they sort things out.
 
Anyone using the myprotein CEE? Just starting my first bulk for about 5 years and ordered a pack of this with my whey as it was only 6 quid.

Looking for some tips on dosage as well as recommended water intake whilst using please! The pack recommends taking 3g an hour before workout, but trawling the various forums people say to take both before and after a workout?

Also any side effects to be aware of ect other than the lovely taste? Read it may damage teeth due to acidity which isn't ideal.
 
CEE really needs a decent dose - whenever I've used creatine I'm hitting a good 15g a day, loading up 5x a day (3g x5 split throughout the day) before and after training too.

However that's how I responded on it. Look into how creatine works, and see if your diet and training would benefit from it and test it. Do a loading phase then take it for 4-5 weeks, and come off - check how it's helped. If nothing, increase the load, or increase the times a day or the length. Or, try just doing what is recommended on the box.

Everybody is different, and whilst the supplements have the same effect on most people in terms of cellular it's hugely reliant on your metabolism, LBM, diet and training and natrual hormonal shifts/balances. I have had my test levels measured and they are on the high end of the bell curve - I'm lucky :)

Such supps only do a very very small percentage difference, they help if administered correctly but the "wow" factor won't be over night or in a few weeks. It'll take a while to really notice whether or not that 1 or 2 extra reps that the supp may or may not help you get makes a difference. :)

Experiment, safely, but read up on it from science books and medical journals not from forums where "experts" tell you one thing or another, or supplement shops which tell you to buy £100s of their product.
 
just ordered some impact whey protein a bottle and a scoop off myprotein... trying to put on as much muscle as possible this summer without the fat on top because its beach season :)
my lifts are steadily increasing, started the year on 40kg deadlift on a smith machine and just gone up to 95kg on a proper barbell
gone up from 40kg bench on a smith to 65kg on a barbell today (worked up on a pyramid basis)
and I have just started to squat so this is really hard atm so only on 48 kg at the moment

all figures are including the weight of the bar btw

cheers

collisster
 
Freefaller said:
CEE really needs a decent dose - whenever I've used creatine I'm hitting a good 15g a day, loading up 5x a day (3g x5 split throughout the day) before and after training too.

However that's how I responded on it. Look into how creatine works, and see if your diet and training would benefit from it and test it. Do a loading phase then take it for 4-5 weeks, and come off - check how it's helped. If nothing, increase the load, or increase the times a day or the length. Or, try just doing what is recommended on the box.

Everybody is different, and whilst the supplements have the same effect on most people in terms of cellular it's hugely reliant on your metabolism, LBM, diet and training and natrual hormonal shifts/balances. I have had my test levels measured and they are on the high end of the bell curve - I'm lucky :)

Such supps only do a very very small percentage difference, they help if administered correctly but the "wow" factor won't be over night or in a few weeks. It'll take a while to really notice whether or not that 1 or 2 extra reps that the supp may or may not help you get makes a difference. :)

Experiment, safely, but read up on it from science books and medical journals not from forums where "experts" tell you one thing or another, or supplement shops which tell you to buy £100s of their product.
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I think that's probably the most intelligent reply I've ever had from the internetz! Think I'll just start on the recommended dosage then and see how that pans out for now, before increasing if needs be.

Can't wait to finally get some strength back into my marshmallow muscles!
 
Hey again SA,

I don't know if this has been answered before - 24 pages is a bit much to read, but I noticed on page 1 a guy asking about triathlon training and recovery stuff. I am looking around for something that will help with energy but would prefer to stay at around my current mass of 68kg, I've been reading a lot of stuff but as ever there is a lot of pseudoscientific bullpoop promising "EPICNESS IN A WEEK!!!!!!!!1!!!!11111one!"

Is something like No-Xplode any good for not bulking up?

My training is MMA so it's not really in the same vein as lifting or triathlons but anyways...

I'm asking because I've been taking PhD's all in one protein and while I feel great, I also put on 1 kg in 3 weeks.
 
-@Clum

When taking it take it with some for of high GI carb (fruit juice etc) to create an insulin response. Research into insulin mediated creatine uptake is showing positive results, the theory being that the insulin forces the available salts/sugars into the muscle helping the uptake process.

When taking it avoid diuretics as these draw water back out of the muscle and without the water the muscle can't store the carbs/salts needed for growth.

-@Shroomz

MMA is a tricky one (as is any weight restricted sport) What works for me is take creatine in the training months and cut it out completely 3-4 weeks before a fight, this will allow time to loose all the excess water but give you the advantage of being able to train harder in the months prior.

If you're looking for an energy boost have you tried good old fashioned caffeine?
 
reiyushin said:
-@Clum

When taking it take it with some for of high GI carb (fruit juice etc) to create an insulin response. Research into insulin mediated creatine uptake is showing positive results, the theory being that the insulin forces the available salts/sugars into the muscle helping the uptake process.

When taking it avoid diuretics as these draw water back out of the muscle and without the water the muscle can't store the carbs/salts needed for growth.
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Cheers will try with some orange juice...should mask the taste a bit as well.
 
reiyushin said:
-@Shroomz

MMA is a tricky one (as is any weight restricted sport) What works for me is take creatine in the training months and cut it out completely 3-4 weeks before a fight, this will allow time to loose all the excess water but give you the advantage of being able to train harder in the months prior.

If you're looking for an energy boost have you tried good old fashioned caffeine?
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Thanks rei, I think I'll try the creatine and see how I feel. I already drink 5-6 cups of green tea a day and try to stay away from much more caffeine because I find I very quickly need to drink huge amounts of coffee and energy drinks to just stave off the withdrawal. I guess it's mostly just getting used to training so much especially being quite new and not as fit as I would like xD
 
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