Not all of us are experts or spend hours researching every ingredient that goes into every product I wish I could but I don't have the time and I know there are some very knowledgeable people on these forums who will just recommend 'use product X because of this and avoid product Y because of this'.
And no I watch some youtube channels and like I said i'm not expert but craze has some harsh ingredients made by a man who released some damaging pro-hormones in the early naughties (yes that is as much knowledge I cared to remember but that's the jist of it). It is a simple question about peoples opinion on a pre-workout nothing to feel supercilious about when someone who has less knowledge than you is asking a question.
Why do people have such huge attitudes on these forums? How ignorant of me to discuss a pre-supplement in the 'Supplements the debate/discussion thread'. We can google everything so let's just close these forums down and not discuss anything...
My concern is valid after everything that has been going on with Craze recently.
Based on what has happened with other pre-workouts, do you really think that anybody would be allowed to sell a supplement through a notionally reputable outlet that was dangerous? Yes? And you would buy it? Awesome.
Indeed. The issue at heart - as it were - is that a lot of people put a lot of time into their own research to understand a given sphere of thought/whatever, and a lot of other people do not bother, whilst getting offended after asking about stuff that google can answer very easily.
The ironic issue here is that my post was aimed at people here who find my long-winded and dry explanations exceedingly dull...
Which is why I generally post my opinions in spoilers...
But now that you have piqued my interest as somebody who might actually be genuinely asking for or curious about the pre-workout, here goes!
1MR is just the same as pretty much every other pre: beat the crud out of your sympathetic nervous system (boost adrenalin, raise heart rate, etc.), whilst sticking you with enough beta alanine to give a blue whale parasthesia. So what does this mean? You feel amped, wired and jittery, whilst having horrid tingles all over. All this whilst stuffing the rest of the scoop with pointless filler that might do something in doses 100x greater than present in the pre. Sure, it has AAKG for pump, etc. but it is somewhat irrelevant at the doses in 1MR.
The reason 1MR is possibly different (going by its ingredient list) is because of the huge amount of beta alanine in it. This is almost guaranteed to give the consumer parasthesia (tingles) unless they are over 140-odd kgs in body weight.
It probably also has a lot of caffeine in it, making the consumer that much more uncomfortable...
Also, the potential effects of any hidden/undeclared monoamines (such as dendrobium in Craze) as most probably (see the caveat?) either tiny (so as to be undetectable) or non-existent. My reasons for this perspective are:
1) no consistent reliable evidence supporting any effect;
2) their rapid breakdown inside the human body without an assigned inhibitor (unless the consumer drinks a bucket of coffee).
Regarding Craze, this is just stupid Americans suing because they can't possibly be accountable for taking 2 scoops of whatever... For 1MR, I would be very surprised if it did anything novel.
Also, pre-workout supplements are alarmingly simple, at the end of the day: they make you feel/believe you can get out that one more rep... If you think you can, it doesn't matter what they put in it: it has done its job. I would make an unsubstantiated guess that gym-goers with robust training partners get out more reps per set than similar gym-goers using pre-workouts. Unless those pres are not available to the public, or banned by WADA
Anyways I think I will finish this pre-workout I only bought it as it was so cheap at £15 then go back on Pulse-V4 it maybe weak and mostly just caffeine but it is a manageable pre-supplement for someone who doesn't know all that much like me. I'm of the thinking that if something stimulates me this much it can't be all that safe. And yes you can buy such pre-workouts from reputable outlets I have bought Jack 3D from one of these outlets in the past before they were forced to change the ingredients and release Jack 3D Micro and well they were giving out Ephedrine with muscle magazines at one point in time so I don't see the point in getting into a whole different discussion here...
1MR was basically 3 scoops of jack3d in one scoop. They have probably also changed their formula now like jack3d has.
The best pre workout would be to just take a caffeine pill if your feeling tired, you could throw in a banana and some creatine too if you really want to push the boat.
Anyways I think I will finish this pre-workout I only bought it as it was so cheap at £15 then go back on Pulse-V4 it maybe weak and mostly just caffeine but it is a manageable pre-supplement for someone who doesn't know all that much like me. I'm of the thinking that if something stimulates me this much it can't be all that safe. And yes you can buy such pre-workouts from reputable outlets I have bought Jack 3D from one of these outlets in the past before they were forced to change the ingredients and release Jack 3D Micro and well they were giving out Ephedrine with muscle magazines at one point in time so I don't see the point in getting into a whole different discussion here...
Was that Craze at £15? If so, that seems pretty cheap and could be a sign of a fake unless it was purchased from a proper outlet. I never really found craze that strong to be far (even when I accidentally took 2 scoops). Yea, it gave be a bit of a boost, but nothing out of the ordinary if taking anything else.
Although, it does give one helluva boost when taken on an empty stomach.. Times like that I miss training at 6am
That was 1MR I bought for £14.99. I take a pre-supplement on days i'm tired so I actually feel like training in the gym the pump is a bonus to prevent injury but not needed I normally warm up quite well.
That was 1MR I bought for £14.99. I take a pre-supplement on days i'm tired so I actually feel like training in the gym the pump is a bonus to prevent injury but not needed I normally warm up quite well.
I live about 1 1/2 miles from this place There was another variation of 1MR for £30-£35 not sure what the difference was maybe just a more concentrated dosage and a smaller scoop so more portions.
That was 1MR I bought for £14.99. I take a pre-supplement on days i'm tired so I actually feel like training in the gym the pump is a bonus to prevent injury but not needed I normally warm up quite well.
No matter how bad I feel when I walk into the gym, all I need the the knowledge that if I don't train that one day, King Damager or Zefan might 1RM my warm-up weights.
the best thing about these was the fact they contained 1,3 dymeth tbh.
take that out and your better off just having a coffee tbh.
but if your taking it due to tiredness then there's an issue with your sleep/rest, and/or nutrition/diet tbh.
i used to take them simple because they made me train harder, but now i just train as hard as i physically can without taking anything, it's more a mentality thing than anything.
you basically have to get over the mind games your brain is playing with you telling you to stop or that your too tired and slow down even though you could easily go further and longer if you really wanted it.
No matter how bad I feel when I walk into the gym, all I need the the knowledge that if I don't train that one day, King Damager or Zefan might 1RM my warm-up weights.
Okay, so the first in 3 series of supp reviews by moi, as I went on a sample spree of whey a while back after being interested what life outside of unflavoured whey + Flavdrops was like.
First up, MyProtein's Impact Whey. All were sampled with water only.
Unflavoured - no thanks Jeff - a good base to add things to though.
Banofee - muddy in colour and not particularly appetising looking, but as the name suggests it tastes like banana and toffee without being heavily in favour of one or the other. Not too sweet and while it's perfectly drinkable, I wouldn't go out of my way to buy it.
Raspberry - a stronger pink colour compared to it's Flavdrops equivalent, however taste wise there's not a whole lot in it. The Flavdrops raspberry is quite artificial in taste where as this is slightly more convincingly raspberry, but it's still quite a weak flavour and thus not particularly memorable or inspiring.
Latte - coffee smell and a light chocolate colour. Sort of like drinking a latte (surprise!) albeit with sweetener, which to me wasn't that bad, although it's not something I'd want every day. Nice, without being overly memorable.
Strawberry Cream - similar to the raspberry in colour but tastes a little more like the real thing and with a stronger taste. It really reminds me of those strawberry cream lollipops you can/used to be able to get. Slightly better than the plain strawberry Flavdrops, but as with the raspberry it's still a bit forgettable.
Vanilla - this is virtually identical to the Flavdrops in colour and taste. It's a mild vanilla flavour that's perfectly acceptable, middle of the road and drinkable.
Mocha - quite similar to the latte but a richer chocolate colour, and as expected, a stronger chocolate taste. A little sweeter as well, but still tastes like chocolate coffee. Not too bad although some might find it overly sweet.
Choc Smooth - looks and tastes like a chocolate milkshake, albeit a little weaker than a proper one and obviously less viscous - less of a malty flavour than the Flavdrops and more chocolate-like. Not outstanding but I'd be happy to drink it again.
Choc Nut - this looks similar to the chocolate, except there are tiny bits floating about in it - presumably something nutty. The flavour is like a hazelnut chocolate which is quite nice and surprisingly nut-like, although it is quite sweet. Would drink again.
Choc Coconut - lighter in colour than the other two chocolate flavours. Not too sweet. To an extent, it tastes like liquid Bounty, which is nice, however the coconut flavour is much stronger than the chocolate, overpowering it. As I like coconut this isn't a bad thing though, it just means the name doesn't quite match the taste.
I think MP's stuff is all quite 'safe' - there aren't any outrageous flavours or very unique tasting ones and they all make whey easy to drink, but I still wouldn't buy multiple kg's of any one of their flavours. If you're too lazy to flavour the unflavoured stuff yourself then I don't think any of them are bad-tasting; some are just a bit bland and others are good without being great.
On Monday I should have drunk every flavour of Xtend (the newer blend) so will report on my findings there, and I have one of every flavour of The Protein Works whey's to get through, which unlike MP look like they're a lot less 'safe'.
No matter how bad I feel when I walk into the gym, all I need the the knowledge that if I don't train that one day, King Damager or Zefan might 1RM my warm-up weights.
2.5kg strawberry cream - 50g + 10g glutamine + 5g dextrose as post w/o shake
2.5kg vanilla - 20g + big bowl quaker oats as breakfast
2.5kg choc smooth - will use for BUFF Dudes recipes for cookies and brownies etc
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There was another variation of 1MR for £30-£35 not sure what the difference was maybe just a more concentrated dosage and a smaller scoop so more portions.
