Soldato
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I find Creapure creatine to not give me any grogginess, cheaper ones have in the past, try some Reflex Nutrition stuff?
Supplements the debate/discussion thread
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Soldato
Are you just taking the normal 3-5mg or doing some sort of micro-loading? Is it just pure mono? Assuming adequate hydration I'm not sure what mechanism of action would cause a headache.
Soldato
I took 3 pills of the below with my morning breakfast. No loading phase. I get enough water for the day.
https://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/creatine-monohydrate/10575029.html
Maybe ill try some Creapure and see if that's any different. I really wanted to take this on the regular as the guys in the gym swear by it.
How interesting.
And taking it because the guys in the gym swear by it isn't the greatest reason to do it; do it because you know what it does, rather than... whatever else.
Creatine isn't a magic supplement for anything so don't feel bad about not taking it.
Creatine can have side effects that don't stem from dehydration, but they are not common. At a guess, you probably aren't drinking enough as Som suggests.
But the normal rule applies: if it makes you feel bad, stop.
Soldato
Yeah creatine has plenty of evidence behind it... but it's still a kind of extra 1% sort of thing and the use of it isn't going to make or break progress. The only things that make a noticeable difference when it comes to the gym aren't the legal kind of supplements, if you know what I mean. If you're having some weird reaction consistently just drop it. In term of how what goes in your mouth affects your training, it's the same as how it affects your weight:
Energy balance/calories > macronutrients >> micronutrients/fibre/water >>> meal timing and frequency >>>>>>>> supplements
Also, caffeine is a diuretic so if you're a coffee monster like me that could influence how much water you're retaining.
Energy balance/calories > macronutrients >> micronutrients/fibre/water >>> meal timing and frequency >>>>>>>> supplements
Also, caffeine is a diuretic so if you're a coffee monster like me that could influence how much water you're retaining.
Soldato
Guys, out of curiosity, has anyone tried the Protein or meal replacement powder from B&M stores? Seems to get half decent reviews and for the price (RRP £29.99, they are selling it for £11.99) its pretty good? This stuff, grabbed two tubs of it today at my local store:-
Guys, out of curiosity, has anyone tried the Protein or meal replacement powder from B&M stores? Seems to get half decent reviews and for the price (RRP £29.99, they are selling it for £11.99) its pretty good? This stuff, grabbed two tubs of it today at my local store:-
Half price is good... but it is just food at the end of the day.
Soldato
I'll see how it goes. Looking to use this as part of my lunch meal routine over the next while, sometimes end up eating on the hoof to a degree because of my new post at work so this could be worthwhile.
Associate
Got 7 of these for £30 each
Associate
Yeah it's definitely worth the price. Tbh 60p a serving isn't that bad, tho previously I just had caffeine tablets that were like 10 or 20p a serving
Everything else on that list is pretty cheap to make a stack from yourself so as long as you think you get enough out of DMAA to justify the price tag. Used to use Jack3d when I lived in US before the "ban" myself and effect was good but I don't I'd invest over the odds.
Man of Honour
That's a heavy dose of DMAA, think the most I've ever used was around 30mg combined with caffeine and the crash was already getting unpleasant.
Man of Honour
I've never had anything from DMAA, doesn't do anything. I get more out of Caffeine
Oddly enough, the one time I did get any kind of effect was on massively out of date Jack3d that had pretty much turned into one big lump. All that did though was make me feel massively depressed
Oddly enough, the one time I did get any kind of effect was on massively out of date Jack3d that had pretty much turned into one big lump. All that did though was make me feel massively depressed
Man of Honour
The DMAA crashes I used to get basically had me sat in a room on my own questioning my own existence. Not a pleasant come down.
Associate
Can't say I've experienced any sort of crash with DMAA, tho I haven't used it without caffeine which itself usually gives me a heavy fatigue afterwards (about 7pm each day when pwo at 9am)
Soldato
Cheers, my Google skills clearly let me down. That's actually not bad so can't be that low, my stomach can get a little funny nowadays with milk and I occasionally eat some Skyr yoghurt and don't keep cheese in the house because I would eat the whole damn block at once
Calcium & magnesium tablets are decent and cheap if you don't eat diary, i'm in a similiar situation, only buy coconut milk and Alpro yoghurts now, there's no need for some of these animal products now i feel, considering the world we live in
Can't say there are any ethical reasons behind it but it's a nice bonus I suppose. Was never a huge fan of milk anyway and also eat cheese and butter very rarely. Speaking of magnesium, wish I would get that great sleep effect everyone is raving about when they take it.
My sleep is awful now as my bed is next to a window so as soon as I get the sun coming through, I'm tossing and turning and quality is really bad. Think I'll invest in some blackout curtains but I'm yet to find a supplement that helps as I've tried a few.
Soldato
Make sure the magnesium you're getting is citrate since it's most other forms aren't as well-absorbed. I think you can get sprays too which you apply to the skin but I don't know if they're nearly as cost-effective as tablets. If you're going to try the Z/M thing it's about 25 mg zinc and 400-500 mg magnesium citrate. Don't overpay for ZMA since it's cheaper to just buy zinc and magnesium individually and some people find the B6 in has a negative effect on sleep. Also don't consume anything containing much calcium around the same time since they share the same transporters IIRC which would limit the amount you take in.
I work shifts and blackout curtains, ear plugs and a decent eye-mask are musts. I've messed around with ordering melatonin online and 5-HTP but I find they're better for when I have to adjust my sleeping pattern v.s. going to sleep and more importantly, staying asleep since I'm more likely to have trouble with waking up randomly at 3am than I am getting to sleep in the first place.
I work shifts and blackout curtains, ear plugs and a decent eye-mask are musts. I've messed around with ordering melatonin online and 5-HTP but I find they're better for when I have to adjust my sleeping pattern v.s. going to sleep and more importantly, staying asleep since I'm more likely to have trouble with waking up randomly at 3am than I am getting to sleep in the first place.