Poll: Syrian Chemical Weapon Attack

[ubersonic]

Go on then, I'll humour you just this once. Which part of my astoundingly simple post did you fail to understand?

My guess, and this is just a hunch, would be the bit where you asked how can China call in a debt they're not yet owed, when the USA already owe them billions.

 

[Amnesia]

Kerry warned a sceptical and sometimes raucous panel that failing to strike Syria would embolden al-Qaida and raise to 100% the chances that Assad would use chemical weapons again.

Who the hell believes the bs this guy comes out with.

 

[areksnumbr1sxylady]

Who the hell believes the bs this guy comes out with.

I am just wondering, does US government realize that with wide availability of internet, people are not dumb enough to believe any bs they say??

Do they live in some wonderland world where they think they come up with some ridiculous statements and everyone believes them just because they are "official"... Are they that out of touch seriously?

Kerry should receive troll of a year award, apparently he said that Russians helped and supplied chemical weapons to Syria and also helped them to launch it... Then he said there is 0 presence of al-queeda in Syrian rebel forces and then he said IF they dont bomb assad al-queeda will somehow become god-like.... Its just ridiculous seriously

 

[scorza]

My guess, and this is just a hunch, would be the bit where you asked how can China call in a debt they're not yet owed, when the USA already owe them billions.

These are the two quotes I was responding to:

And lets not forget China owns most American debt, it could call it in any time it wants (which would cripple/topple the US in a strained protracted war)

So firstly oulton suggests China would call in its debts in a hypothetical Sino-American war. I pointed out that calling in debts in such a situation is pointless because they aren't going to be paid back whether they're called in or not.

No of course the americans wouldn't pay it back. And then their economy would completely collapse because china wouldn't lend them another penny!

Now oulton suggests that he knew the debt wouldn't be paid back in the event of a war between China and the USA. I merely asked why then he mentioned calling in debts in his first post because that wouldn't seem to apply in the situation where further loans were withheld.

I'm ignoring the question of whether you can even call in a loan of this nature, I doubt it but am not 100% sure.

 

[ubersonic]

I am just wondering, does US government realize that with wide availability of internet, people are not dumb enough to believe any bs they say??

Have you SEEN the average american voter?

These are the two quotes I was responding to:

I see, no offense intended but I believe the confusion was more to do with mis-phrasing on your part than mis-understanding on Lazder's/mine.

 

[oulton]

These are the two quotes I was responding to:



So firstly oulton suggests China would call in its debts in a hypothetical Sino-American war. I pointed out that calling in debts in such a situation is pointless because they aren't going to be paid back whether they're called in or not.



Now oulton suggests that he knew the debt wouldn't be paid back in the event of a war between China and the USA. I merely asked why then he mentioned calling in debts in his first post because that wouldn't seem to apply in the situation where further loans were withheld.

I'm ignoring the question of whether you can even call in a loan of this nature, I doubt it but am not 100% sure.

Scorza has problems comprehending the consequences of loan defaults, that is all

 

[areksnumbr1sxylady]

Have you SEEN the average american voter?

Well I mean from what I`ve seen on East Coast or The Lakes people are sometimes even smarter than in UK...

South is another story though.

 

[Devlish]

This guy:

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And a Frigate and rumoured SSBN subs to Syria.

The Moskva isnt going to be there for 10/12 days, probably going to be just an interested bystander by then. The Slava class cruiser sometime after? I highly doubt theyre sending boomers in, theres no reason. They could try and sneak some Akulas or Sierras in, or other more advanced hunter killers. Mind you I wouldnt like to try it against the American / French and probably british subs already there.

One thing for sure, in two weeks time that is going to be one hell of a busy patch of water. Its going to be like the opening to a Tom Clancy book.

 

[scorza]

I see, no offense intended but I believe the confusion was more to do with mis-phrasing on your part than mis-understanding on Lazder's/mine.

You're back-tracking and talking rubbish. My post was perfectly clear to anyone who read the relevant quotes.

Scorza has problems comprehending the consequences of loan defaults, that is all

Why, what do you think is going to happen? What can China do that's worse than declaring war? You understand that there are two parties to any loan don't you? The creditor and the debitor, there are consequences for both parties in the event of a default.

 

[dannyjo22]

Just listening to the daily bacon podcast from Aug 29th with Chris Ryan expressing his views on why we have to keep out of the conflict no matter what and how capable Syria are and how it's un-winable. All very sad that it's at the point where the world has to let them sort it out themselves because it will probably cause fewer deaths.

 

[gothic_hobbit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK5p_HvZl4w

 

[Tombo]

Now oulton suggests that he knew the debt wouldn't be paid back in the event of a war between China and the USA. I merely asked why then he mentioned calling in debts in his first post because that wouldn't seem to apply in the situation where further loans were withheld.

I'm ignoring the question of whether you can even call in a loan of this nature, I doubt it but am not 100% sure.

I believe the quote of him saying of course America wouldn't pay it back is obvious sarcasm.

 

[areksnumbr1sxylady]

Just listening to the daily bacon podcast from Aug 29th with Chris Ryan expressing his views on why we have to keep out of the conflict no matter what and how capable Syria are and how it's un-winable. All very sad that it's at the point where the world has to let them sort it out themselves because it will probably cause fewer deaths.

No, Americans are going on with 60-90 day war campaign....

 

[The Running Man]

Just listening to the daily bacon podcast from Aug 29th with Chris Ryan expressing his views on why we have to keep out of the conflict no matter what and how capable Syria are and how it's un-winable. All very sad that it's at the point where the world has to let them sort it out themselves because it will probably cause fewer deaths.

The problem is always what happens next if we do strike. Who takes power? Who dishes out the reprisals. What if extremists get access to the large amounts of military hardware in syria?

Look at libya now. .(last year)

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/13/world/africa/libya-power-vacuum/index.html

 

[areksnumbr1sxylady]

The problem is always what happens next if we do strike. Who takes power? Who dishes out the reprisals. What if extremists get access to the large amounts of military hardware in syria?

Look at libya now. .(last year)

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/13/world/africa/libya-power-vacuum/index.html

yeah they live better now...

 

[spankingtexan]

Leave it well alone. The west should just leave them to it. Until it reaches us what is the point.

They reckon it won't lead up to being more involved than a few missiles... seems like its inevitable to become fully immersed in a conflict which could get incredibly dangerous.

Countries like that need an iron fist to rule the savages, so let Assad stay, I know the atrocities that have gone on are hideous but where are the "good" guys that are suddenly going to turn up and start eating dominos pizza in damascus whilst watching syrian x factor?

Obviously up in the higher levels of authority there is a bigger plan involved in all this otherwise we would barely be interested, a lot of issues and humanitarian problems elsewhere.

This appears to be a serious flashpoint which a few missile strikes won't solve anything.

Who cares if the west loses face, i don't, I'm in the line of work that could potentially have to be involved if it all goes pear shaped

Agreed, a few missile salvos are pointless, it's just the Yanks wanting to flex muscle, I wonder how many pathetic yes voters are only interested in seeing a few tomahawks launched on the news because their lives are so ******* boring.

 

[ubersonic]

China has reportedly sent warships to the coast of Syria to “observe” the actions of US and Russian ships as tensions build in preparation for a potential military strike on Syria which could come as soon as next week.

Maybe we should ask Germany to send some ships over too and we can has big cold war party

 

[magick]

 

[FoxEye]

The problem is always what happens next if we do strike. Who takes power? Who dishes out the reprisals. What if extremists get access to the large amounts of military hardware in syria?

Look at libya now. .(last year)

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/13/world/africa/libya-power-vacuum/index.html

Well we'll find out soon enough. The US will undoubtedly strike any day now, and it's reasonable to expect that they will cause sufficient damage to allow the rebels to take over.

After all, they aren't just striking at Assad's forces, they are also providing weapons (and who knows what else) to the rebels. For all we know there are covert CIA ops going on over there already. No doubt they're feeding the rebels info and giving tactical advice.

 

[magick]

I think maybe, just maybe Obama will climb down. I've been overwhelmed to see everyone seeing through the lies, deception and the blatant false flag to try and kick start another conflict. It worked with 9/11, worked in Libya but I think now most people are starting to put two and two together.