Taiwan and China thread.

Only way China could walk in tomorrow is if either Taiwan folds and doesn't fight back or China basically levels the entire island with missiles first.

Trying to take it with a conventional invasion at this point would be a long, bloody, campaign.
 
Rroff said:
Only way China could walk in tomorrow is if either Taiwan folds and doesn't fight back or China basically levels the entire island with missiles first.

Trying to take it with a conventional invasion at this point would be a long, bloody, campaign.
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I think china has as much to loose as the US, i strongly doubt either would use nuclear weapons. Russia tried that and i think even they now understand the horrific cost.

I suspect that china will move to reduce taiwans importance to the US. The US will ensure that it takes the lead on semiconductor tech from taiwan.
 
NickK said:
I think china has as much to loose as the US, i strongly doubt either would use nuclear weapons. Russia tried that and i think even they now understand the horrific cost.

I suspect that china will move to reduce taiwans importance to the US. The US will ensure that it takes the lead on semiconductor tech from taiwan.
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The US announced grants of 280 million / billion $ last week for domestic semicoductor tech developers provided they dont sell anything to China for a decade.
 
Gregvivi0401 said:
www.grid.news

Taiwan, China and the U.S.: Inside the fight to control the microchips that power your car and computer

In the wake of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) visit to Taiwan, the Chinese military ran its largest-scale exercises in decades and fired missiles near the island, disrupting supply routes for days. Beyond the geopolitical crisis, as hulking container ships dodged the drills, the world...
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I wish Europe would get involved in this.
 
ianh said:
True, I believe the US (Texas in particular) looks to be the place that chip manufacturers would want to go to to avoid issues in future.
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What you want to make chips is:

* Cheap land
* Stable land (no natural disasters)
* Cheap taxes
* Easy access to cheap/free clean non polluted water
* Cheap electricity

The easy free or cheap non polluted water part is crucial, in the 1970s Intel built a fab on the US west coast next to a river and then they found all the CPUs from this fab were encountering bit flip errors in operation and it was because the water was polluted from an upstream mine and it got into the CPUs
 
Chris Wilson said:
Can't they distill the water, surely they aren't using water straight from the river or even straight from the mains tap...??
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They can build a facility to "clean" up the water source but it is something they would need to consider and plan for, before breaking ground to build a new fab.

I do believe in Taiwan they do use it straight from the mains tap/water source because there was recently an issue about Taiwan's water supply running dry and TSMC name came up in relation to that.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
They can build a facility to "clean" up the water source but it is something they would need to consider and plan for, before breaking ground to build a new fab.

I do believe in Taiwan they do use it straight from the mains tap/water source because there was recently an issue about Taiwan's water supply running dry and TSMC name came up in relation to that.
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Water shortage and chip shortage, your probably right.
 
ChrispyKarma said:
Just to bring the Taiwan thing back on thread.
Why are the falkland Islands british? Yet taiwan cannot be chinese?
Hawaii? Alaska?
We could carry on but as far as I know China have claim to Taiwan and that is it.
I have china pals and we have had near fall out arguments over Tibet.
I still believe the world should let Tibet be Tibet and leave it alone and give it a place in the UN. They will always veto against war and that is a step toward where we should be stepping. People going to xyz but why does China not have the right to expand as it sees fit as the US has done?
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Because it wants to be an independent country.

I don't recall hearing that Alaska or Hawaii want to be independent. Or that Falksland wants to be an independent country. Where did you hear it?

By UN guidelines, any definable geographic area and population of people who wish to be independent with 80% of the people wanting it can be independent and even take their request to the UN. Whether the country they are in accept it is a different story.

With Taiwan, not only do they meet this 80% for what people want, nearly 80% of the population say they are happy to pickup a weapon to defend their independence. Under UN guidelines that enough for them to be their own country.
 
Grim5 said:
With Taiwan, not only do they meet this 80% for what people want, nearly 80% of the population say they are happy to pickup a weapon to defend their independence. Under UN guidelines that enough for them to be their own country.
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Got a source for those figures as it always been a lot lower?

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Year on year University figures within article.
www.newsweek.com

Taiwan's Desire for Unification With China Near Record Low as Tensions Rise

Only 2.4 percent of Taiwan's residents identify as solely "Chinese," while roughly two-thirds say they are only "Taiwanese," according to new polling.
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