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If they are going at break and cannot hold on for 2 hours, they should bring a note as they obviously have a problem.
Teachers should be respected more by kids?
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If they are going at break and cannot hold on for 2 hours, they should bring a note as they obviously have a problem.
Dunno, sometimes if you're suddenly caught out touching cloth it's not an option to hold it. 
Saying that, I do remember when I was at school it was a rarity to be allowed out to the toilet during class.
I reckon a good boxing stance should put the kids in their place.
Saying that, I do remember when I was at school it was a rarity to be allowed out to the toilet during class.
I reckon a good boxing stance should put the kids in their place.
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For all those saying let them go. Would the girl I refused the loo really say I am on my rag if it was true?
Soldato
Lol at the total bell ends who think it's acceptable for what appears to be a proper witch deciding when a child goes to the toilet.
This has nothing to do with discipline or respect. It's to do with someone who is most likely failing at life in general and is going on a power trip lording it over 10 year old children.
Yes there's not enough respect for teachers and a lot of kids are proper little rats but some 'life failure' stopping them going to the toilet just because she can isn't going to achieve anything other than further rat-ify (I know it's not a real word) the kids.
Soldato
How do we know? You need to have a long hard look at yourself. You have come on to a predominantly IT forum looking for validation of your draconian methods, that in itself tells me your either trolling or have no business educating children.
Caporegime
Sorry, are you a qualified teacher?
Engage your brain for a second. Teachers have a duty of care. If said child leaves the class and has an accident whilst unsupervised, who is going to get the blame? If the teacher goes with said child, who is looking after the class?
Respect is earned not taken, I found very few teachers understood this basic principle of human interaction while I was at school. Mr. Aylett and Mr. Bawler are two examples from my school days of great teachers, Ms. Semple was a **** and so was Mr. Russell. Yeah there are some little ***** around who you want to punch but they've probably not learned respect yet. No man or woman will respond politely to shouting and aggressive behaviour so why are we expecting children to do the same.
Teachers are just as responsible as parents for shaping the minds of children, they spend just as much time as parents or more with their kids.
Teachers are just as responsible as parents for shaping the minds of children, they spend just as much time as parents or more with their kids.
Soldato
I wonder how all the kids from my youth managed to go to the loo unsupervised and not fall down a black hole?!
We had 'care taking staff' back in my youth while patrolled/monitored the corridors and loos I'm guessing such people don't exist in the school system any more?
Teachers do indeed have a duty of care and by not allowing a child to use the loo they are placing that child in a potentially uncomfortable situation - does that not go against the teachers duty of care?
Anything is possible in the world of things that never happened outside of your own imagination
Soldato
The children should be whipped to within a inch of their lives and made to sit in a puddle of their own making. That is probably too good for them tbh.
Caporegime
No those people don't exist. Uncomfortable is preferable to dangerous so no, it doesn't go against a duty of care.
Caporegime
well this has been a rollercoaster read
If you were talking about secondary school kids then I would agree.
Year 6 kids on the other hand... No chance.
Then again, i cant believe this is a real thread. Someone who is bored with a spare account and a VPN.
If you were talking about secondary school kids then I would agree.
Year 6 kids on the other hand... No chance.
Then again, i cant believe this is a real thread. Someone who is bored with a spare account and a VPN.
Soldato
Respect is earned, not given automatically.
Teacher / school threads always provide so many lols.
Just about every school I know (y7+) have a no toilet policy. You go between lessons or at break / lunch. Teachers are 100% not allowed to go during lesson time unless they happen to see someone pass their room and they offer to look after their class for a moment.
Those students that have a bladder problem get a toilet pass and can go whenever they want. Same for girls who have heavy periods, they would get a toilet pass arranged between parents and a support worker but the teacher would have no idea why they have the toilet pass.
I normally tell students to ask me again in 5 minutes and 90% completely forget which says it all..
I also say do 10 star jumps and if they agree, they don’t get to go, if they say no cause they’ll pee their pants then I let them go
I often need on the toilet in the morning and never get a second to myself all day so I don’t go until I get home, I’m very surprised by adults who need to empty their bladder within 20minutes, I’d be going to the doctors if I needed to go that quickly, maybe I’m just accustomed to waiting like kids.
Just about every school I know (y7+) have a no toilet policy. You go between lessons or at break / lunch. Teachers are 100% not allowed to go during lesson time unless they happen to see someone pass their room and they offer to look after their class for a moment.
Those students that have a bladder problem get a toilet pass and can go whenever they want. Same for girls who have heavy periods, they would get a toilet pass arranged between parents and a support worker but the teacher would have no idea why they have the toilet pass.
I normally tell students to ask me again in 5 minutes and 90% completely forget which says it all..
I also say do 10 star jumps and if they agree, they don’t get to go, if they say no cause they’ll pee their pants then I let them go
I often need on the toilet in the morning and never get a second to myself all day so I don’t go until I get home, I’m very surprised by adults who need to empty their bladder within 20minutes, I’d be going to the doctors if I needed to go that quickly, maybe I’m just accustomed to waiting like kids.
Soldato
I'm sorry I may not be a qualified teacher but intentionally forcing a child to suffer discomfort and potentially pain by not allowing them to use the toilet is totally unacceptable and I would argue it does go against a duty of care. Provision should be made to allow children access to toilet facilities. I would assume you are a teacher and a sane human being, so you can't honestly tell me it is acceptable to place a child in a state of physical pain and discomfort by not allowing them access to a toilet?
Caporegime
A child shouldn't be in pain after needing the toilet for a few tens of minutes. If they are then as already has been said, there's probably something medically wrong with them in which case the parent should have informed the school and they'd have a free pass anyway, or if they were in pain the teacher would act.
Lakeland's post describes it pretty well.
Also no, not a teacher.
Soldato
As an adult male with Irritable Bowel Syndrome since that age of 12 I can assure you that being denied access to the toilet during lesson times has ruined me as a person. I wasn't brave enough to tell my teachers or headmaster at school that I had a problem, I still suffer with anxiety and panic attacks to this day thanks to teachers like you.
Caporegime
As an adult with IBS also...
It's your own fault for not telling the staff what was wrong, being brave doesn't come in to it. Anxiety and panic attacks because a teacher wouldn't let you go to the bathroom? Get bloody counselling.
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Soldato
I didn't know I had IBS at that age, I just went to school each day feeling poorly on and off. The doctor I was seeing at the time gave me some sort of peppermint capsule that just made me worse so I lost all faith in him, It was around the age of 18 where I finally discovered that IBS wasn't just all the same for everyone thus why the peppermint made me worse, but that damage was done then.
I remember one severely humiliating moment in a french class where I burst into tears as I felt so poorly and the teacher wouldn't let me go, put yourself in that situation? Your guts are churning, everything inside hurts like hell, you're too embarrassed to try and explain what's going on inside you whilst in front of kids your age?
FYI I've been through CBT therapy, hypnotherapy and counselling,
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