Terrible Jaguar re-brand

you think that would be coal to Newcastle ? Elon - " this is how a luxury ev should be executed " .... not sure, but think I'd read he already has a Jag in his harem.
 
Slightly off-topic, but a mate of mine recently bought a Tesla and honestly I think it's a bit crap from a value perspective.

Don't get me wrong, it's quick off the mark and the infrastructure around here for charging has improved immensely, but for a 35k + vehicle? It looks and feels cheap to me, especially the interior.

Maybe it's just me, but if I was spending that sort of money I'd want a more premium feel.
 
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Gray2233 said:
Slightly off-topic, but a mate of mine recently bought a Tesla and honestly I think it's a bit crap from a value perspective.

Don't get me wrong, it's quick off the mark and the infrastructure around here for charging has improved immensely, but for a 35k + vehicle? It looks and feels cheap to me, especially the interior.

Maybe it's just me, but if I was spending that sort of money I'd want a more premium feel.
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I'd agree with you if it wasn't priced in line with Ford, Kia, VW, etc. but it is and its on par with what you'd get from those manufacturers. I'm not sure what you are expecting for the money but new cars are just expensive.

Jonnycoupe said:
Even suggesting a Tesla is luxury car is your first error.
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Indeed, it's certainly no BMW, Volvo or Mercedes that's for sure but its significantly cheaper also.
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
I'd agree with you if it wasn't priced in line with Ford, Kia, VW, etc. but it is and its on par with what you'd get from those manufacturers. I'm not sure what you are expecting for the money but new cars are just expensive.


Indeed, it's certainly now BMW, Volvo or Mercedes that's for sure but its significantly cheaper also.
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I stated 35K + as the absolute cheapest model I'm aware of, the friend in question spent closer to 50K according to him and it still feels tacky.

You start adding extras and moving up the chain and things spiral quickly, maybe it makes the value proposition of buying new poor in general to be honest. I'd not be happy spending 35K on something that felt so cheap, and second hand EV's are an iffy prospect too from what I gather.
 
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Something like a Cupra born knocks the socks off a model 3. Pre facelift anyway.

Can you get back to talking about the advert for cars that don’t yet exist? I’ve got a seat at the day after post mortem in Miami so I’ll be taking all the notes, especially jpauls insights…
 
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Jonnycoupe said:
Can you get back to talking about the advert for cars that don’t yet exist? I’ve got a seat at the day after post mortem in Miami so I’ll be taking all the notes, especially jpauls insights…
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I’ve not actually commented on the advert because there is nothing to talk about.

I find the general discourse about or more amusing than anything else, of the objective was to get people talking about Jaguar, it worked.

The issue as I see it is there now seems to be a cohort of people wanting the brand to fail which is not great. That said, if the cars decent, they’ll soon change their tune.

I’m not sold on the revised branding, it’s quite a departure from the status quo but it might make sense on the new car. I’m leaving an open mind on that one.

I take it iJustine and that comedian who can’t drive (Jack Whitehall?) are not being rolled out for this one?
 
I think he's a zoomer .. maybe he's going to dec2 launch ? but how should they have replied to Musk ? or could they still
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
I’ve not actually commented on the advert because there is nothing to talk about.

I find the general discourse about or more amusing than anything else, of the objective was to get people talking about Jaguar, it worked.

The issue as I see it is there now seems to be a cohort of people wanting the brand to fail which is not great. That said, if the cars decent, they’ll soon change their tune.

I’m not sold on the revised branding, it’s quite a departure from the status quo but it might make sense on the new car. I’m leaving an open mind on that one.

I take it iJustine and that comedian who can’t drive (Jack Whitehall?) are not being rolled out for this one?
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Jonny smith was at the ipace one as well. No idea, I’m hoping for Ricky Gervais.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Are you on crack?

Why would any serious company ‘respond’ to a billionaire internet troll who will just unleash his loyal goons on your social media feed?
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Richest guy on the planet. Has built a highly successful automotive company from scratch in a relatively short period.
Yeah, why would they talk to him?
 
That’s been and gone years ago, didn’t need a twitter post to initiate contact with chief Trump lizard.

I not sure taking a swingometer the complete other way offers anything anyway. Must be hard working for spaceX or Tesla. Musk seems to get the credit for everything… he certainly didn’t start Tesla!


GarethSouthgate said:
You're going to?
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Sorry poor grammar, no I’ll be in Gaydon for a live session from Miami the day after.
 
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Gray2233 said:
Slightly off-topic, but a mate of mine recently bought a Tesla and honestly I think it's a bit crap from a value perspective.

Don't get me wrong, it's quick off the mark and the infrastructure around here for charging has improved immensely, but for a 35k + vehicle? It looks and feels cheap to me, especially the interior.

Maybe it's just me, but if I was spending that sort of money I'd want a more premium feel.
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the truth of it is these days £35k is not premium car price for a new car. .. it's middle of the road and whilst the finishing may not be premium the features in Tesla's are fairly high end.

keeping on topic, the ipace is a high end fairly luxury car and that is £70k of car.... and sure it being an EV adds a small premium but you were not buying a new E.Pace or F pace for under £50k either (I am guessing closer to £60k but not checked)

(new jaGuar is going to be ultra premium and starting at £100k)
 
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Jonnycoupe said:
At launch you could get into an F pace just under 40k to be fair. And this £35k new model 3?! When did that ever happen in the UK?! I think 39995 was lowest?
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really ? I didn't realise the FPace was that affordable. that is a lot of car for your cash.
the base nissan QQ starts at 30k and that is for the base model. if you want toys to bring it in line with the Tesla features you are looking at the tekna+ spec.and no one would call a QQ a premium car (not knocking them I like the QQ)
 
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