*** The 2010 Gym Rats Thread ***

hey guys

any tips to help hit the shoulders better? just after some tips to help the mind muscle connection. i can tell when i hit other muscle groups but dont feel it much in the shoulders

i have concentrated on presses and raises. my next idea is to do lower reps, high weight.


any tips appreciated
 
Tip to anyone who wants to lose 3-5 lbs in a couple of days, eat a badly cooked chicken pizza :D:D

Feeling much better today, should hopefully be able to get to the gym tomorrow or friday to start :)
 
My abs can caine sometimes after a back day, usually from bracing for pullups/pull downs.

Same, have DOMs in my abs from top to bottom today :D





willems said:
hey guys

any tips to help hit the shoulders better? just after some tips to help the mind muscle connection. i can tell when i hit other muscle groups but dont feel it much in the shoulders

i have concentrated on presses and raises. my next idea is to do lower reps, high weight.


any tips appreciated

Try this;

Military press 3x8
Front raises 3x8
Lateral raises 3x8
Upright Rows 3x8
Shrugs 3x8

you'll be feeling the burn once you get to lateral raises!
 
I can't say I find it sad at all. I could ride my bike literally for hours on end every single night before I started weight training. Now I'm out of puff from light jogging for a minute. I would never ever go back to how I was if it meant I had to look the same, never.
Like I say I'm hardly a poster child at the moment and never recommend people to follow what I do, I just don't see the point in saying I do xyz just because I think it will sound good :p
Perhaps in a few years I will worry more about the health side and just keeping fit, but for now I don't.

Of course everyone is individual, and I wouldn't tell someone not to do something. I can only provide the facts and the info and let people make up their own minds.

I guess I'm maybe luckier than you as I can hold onto mass whilst doing a fair bit of cardio - genetics aside, it is absolutely possible to maintain a good CV health whilst building muscle, anybody telling you otherwise doesn't know what they'er talking about. I appreciate you're not too bothered about fitness and you're after size and shape - and you've done brilliantly, and it shows - however, all I can say is, don't let it creep up on you - it's so easy to over look CV fitness. It doesn't mean you have to be able to do an ironman or a triathalon, but a medium amount of CV fitness I think is absolutely necessary. :)

each to their own I guess(regardless of the medical facts), I just dislike CV!

It's much like some people will only let themselves drink alcohol whilst on a bulk, and wont touch a drop whilst cutting

You don't have to go on a treadmill (I don't understand why you'd want to!), however, a couple of games of basketball or squash a week for 30-45 mins is a good place to start. Or doing some skipping or some rowing, or rugby, or some form of exercise, it doesn't have to be "CV" oriented - it will help develop your CV fitness.

Your heart is a muscle, your lungs and ability to move oxygen around your body will also affect your ability to transport nutrients, and improving your capillary functions - you're whole circulatory system, all your organs as well. It's such a big deal. The better your CV health the more able your body is at dealing with the nutrients it needs to build new muscle, rather than it being strained at dealing with lack of blood flow and the congestion owing to fatty deposits on your organs (visceral fat).

I just find it strange, that people spend a fortune on supps, gym memberships, and hours on forums and in the gym tweaking their diets, their routines, and change their lives to improve their bodies - then do nothing about improving the insides of their bodies. It's all very well having the body of a Ferrari but have an old rusty tractor engine underneath it defeats the object.

For me it seems daft for it to be mutually exclusive - why not have both? Give yourself more chance of accelerating your gains and also make yourself healthier?!

You're all probably still young, and feel indestructible, but it can creep up on you quickly. Coronary heart diseases could take years even decades to manifest itself, a lot of bodybuilders and strongmen have heart problems later in life. I'd rather stand tall and proud in my 40s, with the body of a 30 year old and the heart of a (fit) 20 year old. Than be the biggest and the best at 30, and needing oxygen tanks around me in my 40s. Sure, I'm being extreme, but it's such a fine balance, and doesn't take much effort to improve your fitness.

It's just something for you all to think about. I'm not saying you're wrong not to do it, but I couldn't live with myself if I didn't let everyone know so that they can at least make up their minds.

so many exercises

just do heavy push press and one raise movement and go home

Indeed. Push press with slow negs and side raises (using cables to keep tension on) is pretty much all I do for the boulders I'm developing.

If you do benching, front raises aren't necessary really.
 
Hm, may actually invest in a skipping rope....I hate CV, normally because I have bad joints with regards to the impact it brings, ie cycling (Low impact I know! But it hurts my knee) and running just kills it...I also had a torn ligament in my ankle so all that doesn't work...only thing I can do safely is Swimming, but that costs money, and on my current wage I can't afford it :( Otherwise I would as that really knackers me out!
 
Circuits are a brilliant thing when it comes to CV. I guess it can be a type of interval training depending on how you structure them.

30 seconds of 4 exercises e.g. skipping, mountain climbers, high knees jogging, squat thrusts, burpee's, ******** (burpee with a press up ;), 30 seconds on the bag, jumping jacks and so on. With 30 seconds rest. Repeat that 4 or 5 times and you'll be blowing.

Much more enjoyable than slugging it out for half an hour on some CV equipment.

Biggest factor for me, and I'm sure it the same for many, is that no matter how you look at it regular CV work is boring as hell.

Which is why I favour intervals & circuits :) if you have access to a punch bag then it's win win!
 
I saw a guy do some awesome squats today.

When I first caught sight of him he was using 100kg, and had decided to elevate his heels. Fine, that's pretty normal. Wait till you hear how he elevated his heels.

He got a bare olympic dumbell, put it on the floor and then put two 15kg plates behind it to hold it in place. He then put his heels up on top of the dumbbell and 1/5 squatted.

I was enthralled. The dumbbell was moving, pushing the plates. When he got up to 140kg I seriously thought it was going to roll out. Lucky he was barely moving with that sort of weight.

He maxed out my douchebagometer when he finished and decided to do some sort of exercise with the barbell in the corner of the wall.

He took off the weights until there were just two 20kg plates on the bar. He then stood under the bar, lifted it up, and then banged and crashed his way out of the rack over to the corner on the other side of the gym. He then leaned to the left, let one 20 just fall off, bang to the floor and roll away, then did it on the other side.

Rather than just, you know, carrying 60kg to the corner and putting it down...
 
Of course everyone is individual, and I wouldn't tell someone not to do something. I can only provide the facts and the info and let people make up their own minds.

I guess I'm maybe luckier than you as I can hold onto mass whilst doing a fair bit of cardio - genetics aside, it is absolutely possible to maintain a good CV health whilst building muscle, anybody telling you otherwise doesn't know what they'er talking about. I appreciate you're not too bothered about fitness and you're after size and shape - and you've done brilliantly, and it shows - however, all I can say is, don't let it creep up on you - it's so easy to over look CV fitness. It doesn't mean you have to be able to do an ironman or a triathalon, but a medium amount of CV fitness I think is absolutely necessary. :)



You don't have to go on a treadmill (I don't understand why you'd want to!), however, a couple of games of basketball or squash a week for 30-45 mins is a good place to start. Or doing some skipping or some rowing, or rugby, or some form of exercise, it doesn't have to be "CV" oriented - it will help develop your CV fitness.

Your heart is a muscle, your lungs and ability to move oxygen around your body will also affect your ability to transport nutrients, and improving your capillary functions - you're whole circulatory system, all your organs as well. It's such a big deal. The better your CV health the more able your body is at dealing with the nutrients it needs to build new muscle, rather than it being strained at dealing with lack of blood flow and the congestion owing to fatty deposits on your organs (visceral fat).

I just find it strange, that people spend a fortune on supps, gym memberships, and hours on forums and in the gym tweaking their diets, their routines, and change their lives to improve their bodies - then do nothing about improving the insides of their bodies. It's all very well having the body of a Ferrari but have an old rusty tractor engine underneath it defeats the object.

For me it seems daft for it to be mutually exclusive - why not have both? Give yourself more chance of accelerating your gains and also make yourself healthier?!

You're all probably still young, and feel indestructible, but it can creep up on you quickly. Coronary heart diseases could take years even decades to manifest itself, a lot of bodybuilders and strongmen have heart problems later in life. I'd rather stand tall and proud in my 40s, with the body of a 30 year old and the heart of a (fit) 20 year old. Than be the biggest and the best at 30, and needing oxygen tanks around me in my 40s. Sure, I'm being extreme, but it's such a fine balance, and doesn't take much effort to improve your fitness.

It's just something for you all to think about. I'm not saying you're wrong not to do it, but I couldn't live with myself if I didn't let everyone know so that they can at least make up their minds.

I fully appreciate your input mate and I like to think we are quite similar in that we post what we think/ do and let others decide (even if we don't always fully agree on the details :p)

Very true about the indestructible part, a few things recently have made me step back and realize I am not in fact super man... I think as you get older your priorities change into a more healthy outlook. I've still got the attitude of wanting to be bigger and better but its no where near as important as it used to be right now.
 
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The gumberry juice is what throws the spanner in the works, it's hard to apply anything that a steroid-using professional type is doing to the average trainee.
 
The gumberry juice is what throws the spanner in the works, it's hard to apply anything that a steroid-using professional type is doing to the average trainee.

Oh yeah sure I wouldn't follow the diet/training regime of someone on gear regardless of wether they had excellent bloodwork etc, tends to be completely different training/nutrition (Well just a lot more of both really). Still found it an interesting article however, Id quite like to be able to cut on 5000 calories a day :p
 
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