It's true, it's great to see enthusiasm like yours. 
Keep it up matey.
Keep it up matey. *** The 2010 Gym Rats Thread ***
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Start going heavy SPW - less reps, but really heavy. Lots of sets of 2s and 3s. 
Lots of my friends are trying to get me to compete - I have no interest in it though. Good luck sure you'll be getting pro help, but if you want support - we'll be here!
Legs for me tomorrow too!
It's been a while since i've drunk that much, but it makes complete sense - not the best way to look lean though!
I don't always get DOMS. However, try varying your routine abit (just as a general point), I tend to train for strength as well, however, it's good to mix it up every 6-8 weeks as a general rule. However not having DOMS is not a sign you're not getting stronger, developing muscle etc... Has your strength improved? If so, then you're on the right track!
I disagree. CV health is critical and won't hamper bulking. To lift heavy weights you put a strain on your heart. The improved cv health minimises quick fatigue and enhances the efforts you put in.
Never let cv down. Cv health is critical to health and general well being and minimising visceral fat build up that bulking can cause.
IME it does hamper bulking. BUT everything else is very true. If you don't want to get out of breath walking to the shops I wouldn't neglect it. I'm personally not bothered about being a little more out of breath than I would be if I was fitter so I don't
I can't say I agree. It shouldn't hamper bulking at all, not significantly enough to be an issue. Certainly it won't make you a marathon runner, what I mean is something along the lines of HIIT or enough to get your cv fitness improving on off days of weights. Even the big boys do some.
Visceral fat is more dangerous and less noticeable than subcutaneous fat which is what people worry about when bulking. Visceral fat leads to much more problems to your health and cv system. Subcutaneous fat is actually fairly innocuous in comparison.
Personally I think it's quite sad to see people who eat well train hard who then undo all their work because they haven't got the fitness.
Personally I don't want to compromise my health for the sake of a couple of pounds or an extra few months of training to get to my goals.
Still each to their own.
I get that sometimes. It's weird isn't it?
I can't say I find it sad at all. I could ride my bike literally for hours on end every single night before I started weight training. Now I'm out of puff from light jogging for a minute. I would never ever go back to how I was if it meant I had to look the same, never.
Like I say I'm hardly a poster child at the moment and never recommend people to follow what I do, I just don't see the point in saying I do xyz just because I think it will sound good
Perhaps in a few years I will worry more about the health side and just keeping fit, but for now I don't.
Of course everyone is individual, and I wouldn't tell someone not to do something. I can only provide the facts and the info and let people make up their own minds.
I guess I'm maybe luckier than you as I can hold onto mass whilst doing a fair bit of cardio - genetics aside, it is absolutely possible to maintain a good CV health whilst building muscle, anybody telling you otherwise doesn't know what they'er talking about. I appreciate you're not too bothered about fitness and you're after size and shape - and you've done brilliantly, and it shows - however, all I can say is, don't let it creep up on you - it's so easy to over look CV fitness. It doesn't mean you have to be able to do an ironman or a triathalon, but a medium amount of CV fitness I think is absolutely necessary.
You don't have to go on a treadmill (I don't understand why you'd want to!), however, a couple of games of basketball or squash a week for 30-45 mins is a good place to start. Or doing some skipping or some rowing, or rugby, or some form of exercise, it doesn't have to be "CV" oriented - it will help develop your CV fitness.
Your heart is a muscle, your lungs and ability to move oxygen around your body will also affect your ability to transport nutrients, and improving your capillary functions - you're whole circulatory system, all your organs as well. It's such a big deal. The better your CV health the more able your body is at dealing with the nutrients it needs to build new muscle, rather than it being strained at dealing with lack of blood flow and the congestion owing to fatty deposits on your organs (visceral fat).
I just find it strange, that people spend a fortune on supps, gym memberships, and hours on forums and in the gym tweaking their diets, their routines, and change their lives to improve their bodies - then do nothing about improving the insides of their bodies. It's all very well having the body of a Ferrari but have an old rusty tractor engine underneath it defeats the object.
For me it seems daft for it to be mutually exclusive - why not have both? Give yourself more chance of accelerating your gains and also make yourself healthier?!
You're all probably still young, and feel indestructible, but it can creep up on you quickly. Coronary heart diseases could take years even decades to manifest itself, a lot of bodybuilders and strongmen have heart problems later in life. I'd rather stand tall and proud in my 40s, with the body of a 30 year old and the heart of a (fit) 20 year old. Than be the biggest and the best at 30, and needing oxygen tanks around me in my 40s. Sure, I'm being extreme, but it's such a fine balance, and doesn't take much effort to improve your fitness.
It's just something for you all to think about. I'm not saying you're wrong not to do it, but I couldn't live with myself if I didn't let everyone know so that they can at least make up their minds.
Indeed. Push press with slow negs and side raises (using cables to keep tension on) is pretty much all I do for the boulders I'm developing.
If you do benching, front raises aren't necessary really.
And I wish you every success in achieving your goals.
Benny, agreed about circuits... Light weights, short pauses, 3 or 4 circuits and I'm shagged!
Benny, agreed about circuits... Light weights, short pauses, 3 or 4 circuits and I'm shagged!
That's why I went to a sports physio who insisted I carried on with exercise, but just add certain movements and a certain weight to help recovery/rehabilitation. Worth every penny - expensive, but I wouldn't think twice.
It's the concept that the muscle has been able to work out at a certain intensity/power in the past, and your body's ability to "remember" it's ability - i.e. build the strength back up, the theory being that the brain has linked that movement to that resistance before and the synapses, nerves and tendons have the ability to move that resistance and as such returns to it's full "strength" quickly. It's a theory of course.
That's some full on training! Do you take any time off? I'd seriously suggest having at least 1 day of total laziness.
They are quite harsh targets - I doubt I'll hit Elite on any of them - happily I'm over Advanced for most of my lift - but not by much!
Why are you buying supps? If you're looking at some you've got to have a reason behind buying them - so tell us what you're after so others can recommend things. You won't find me recommending any but there are a lot of people here who claim some have helped them a lot, and admittedly there are some supps which do provide some focus/energy/recovery, but only helps in a subtle way if you're relatively in tune with yourself.
Furthermore we have a supplements thread:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18049226
I'd appreciate it if you kept such discussion in there.
You're right I was probably being a bit harsh on myself.
I need 20kg on my deadlifts to get to Elite at my current weight
I need about 30kg or so on my squat to get to Elite.
So achievable - it'll just take a bit of time. Not bothered about bench.
Yeah there are some very strong people on this forum. For my weight though I'm pretty weak IMO. However, I'm harsh on myself - or tough on myself because I don't accept mediocrity.
120kg powerclean in the bag baby! Tried 130 but didn't have the guts to get under the bar - I have it in me but that was my 7th set so getting a bit tired!
Thanks dude.
I push pressed 110kg. So I reckon I could get 120 with a bit of effort.