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fluffmct · 12 Sep 2012 at 11:44

HDR fitness images as most people will implement them are absolutely horrible. Get a decent photographer

Dj_Jestar · 12 Sep 2012 at 11:49

They'll use HDR to increase the contrast, which will therefore exaggerate the muscularity. It'll do the same job as the make-up on the abs. The film 300 was filmed with high contrast and ab make-up, but they also drastically reduced saturation and increased vibrance.

kai · 12 Sep 2012 at 11:50

LiE said:
Is that normal for them to ask you to arrange that?

If you have to get topless in your gym, I'd be tempted to do it really late, just before closing.

Yes this is normally sorted by them however as it's a local gym to me they asked would i ask firstly their policy on this; and ill be trying to get a studio room and just drag a bench and some free weight in there. No way am i doing it out in the open !!!

LiE · 12 Sep 2012 at 11:51

^
Exactly, that combined with some harsh down lighting and you'll looked twice the size.

fluffmct · 12 Sep 2012 at 11:52

Well that's not what HDR does and "HDR" as it's implemented by the vast majority of photographers is terrible. Even more so in fitness photography. Obviously my own opinion but I know a fair bit about the subject and there are far better ways to show off muscularity, both at the time of shoot and in post processing

Delvis · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:20

mrthingyx said:
It isn't rocket science. The very basic premise is that type 1 fibres are slow twitch (i.e. Slow but efficient with an aerobic energy cycle) whereas type 2 are fast twitch and are anaerobic. The former are better for non explosive strength (marathon running) whereas the latter are better for explosive (sprinting).

A/B variation in type 2 delineates between fast and very fast... A type will use a mix of fuel, but output less power, whereas B type is power and speed all the way. B variants are also the thickest muscle fibre type.

Might not be rocket science, but I've never read up on it, so obviously don't know the ins and outs. Just like you don't know certain things due to never having read anything about them

Freefaller · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:21

fluffmct said:
Well that's not what HDR does and "HDR" as it's implemented by the vast majority of photographers is terrible. Even more so in fitness photography. Obviously my own opinion but I know a fair bit about the subject and there are far better ways to show off muscularity, both at the time of shoot and in post processing

Indeed. Just get more muscle! :cool:

Delvis · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:24

Steedie said:
If only you did 8 years of hypertrophy focused training LiE you'd be so joocey right now

Waste if you ask me

He hardly looks naff though buddy

Dj_Jestar · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:26

fluffmct said:
Well that's not what HDR does and "HDR" as it's implemented by the vast majority of photographers is terrible. Even more so in fitness photography. Obviously my own opinion but I know a fair bit about the subject and there are far better ways to show off muscularity, both at the time of shoot and in post processing

Are you the photographer that is going to shoot kai or something? You seem to be offended by what I posted

Fitness togs abuse HDR to exaggerated the contours/shadows of muscles all the time.

Hell, they even just paint them on in PS too..

edit: To clarify further.. they use the HDR to take away the shadows they don't want, in order to make the shadows they do want be all the more exaggerated.

LiE · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:26

Steedie is trying to groom me for his secret homo schemes.

Freefaller · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:34

Steedie said:
Fellow old folk,

Lately, my right knee sometimes give the most almighty crack when walking, it's not painful, but not a nice feeling when it does it, and not nice for the person I'm walking past at the time

Anything I can take supplement/herb wise that can help with this? I know Freefaller will probably have a good recommendation

Is it cos I'm old?! That why?!

I found I responded well to Cissus Quadrangularis. However you can try using MSM - though some people even recommend CLA - but I don't know why.

That along with fish oils works out well. However, this is also where mobility comes into its own... it's ideal for sorting out those sort of issues.

Just something to think about.

Chris1712 said:
Is there an OcUK Gym Ratz facebook group? Why not?

Oooh good interesting!!

Steedie · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:49

Delvis said:
He hardly looks naff though buddy

That's not what I said though is it

LiE looks awesome now, probably one of the best physiques on here, but I said if he trained for hypertrophy for 8 years, I'd probably get locked up for rape

tom_e · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:51

I feel we need a nohomo tag in the thread title these days, or srshomo

kai · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:54

Steedie said:
That's not what I said though is it

LiE looks awesome now, probably one of the best physiques on here, but I said if he trained for hypertrophy for 8 years, I'd probably get locked up for rape

AHHAHAHAHA !! One the best quotes ever on this thread

mrthingyx · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:56

Delvis said:
Might not be rocket science, but I've never read up on it, so obviously don't know the ins and outs. Just like you don't know certain things due to never having read anything about them

Wasn't meant as a dig - it's just not as complicated as it may seem.

Supplement companies try to make it seem complicated and abstract ideas away from the factual premise to make their products sound awesome, which is why a lot of people don't want to know. Adding in the fact that secondary school biology is a load of bunk, and it's a recipe for apprehension.

Still apologies if you did take offence, but none was intended.

Have a look here for a nice table to summarise the current understanding nicely.

willems · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:58

looks like i missed the roid rage

whatever happened to hux and his arm shots?

tom_e · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:03

willems said:
looks like i missed the roid rage

whatever happened to hux and his arm shots?

He got banned or left one of the 2

willems · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:04

shame. he loved a bit of constructive criticism

fluffmct · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:16

Dj_Jestar said:
Are you the photographer that is going to shoot kai or something? You seem to be offended by what I posted

Fitness togs abuse HDR to exaggerated the contours/shadows of muscles all the time. Hell, they even just paint them on in PS too..

edit: To clarify further.. they use the HDR to take away the shadows they don't want, in order to make the shadows they don't want which makes the shadows they do want be all the more exaggerated.

Not offended in the slightest

I do take a lot of fitness photos though and I know that any fitness photographer worth their salt doesn't use HDR *as it's known by the general tog community* or if they do it's usually at the expense of a decent photo

Chris1712 · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:29

Freefaller said:
Oooh good interesting!!

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