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nothing like being a shorty light a s s
Caporegime
100kg doesn't feel heavy as hell, and I can't rep it for 20.
Caporegime
I'd stick to more traditional stretching and hockeyball rolling if I were you.
But hammers hurt more? So surely it's doing more?
Soldato
Yes LiE we get it, you're strong
Caporegime
Was just confused at UE's comment about being 'heavy as hell', yet reps 20. repping 20 of 100kg means UE is much stronger than me, who doesn't find 100kg 'heavy as hell'
Soldato
I'm sure he's exaggerating for effect. The point being, even if you're capable of repping it out, sometimes the weight always feels substantial when you take the full load (fnarr). And I see his point. 100kg never feels light to me for Deadlifts, yet I could rep it 'til the cows come home.
Caporegime
I think it depends on your strength level. 100kg will feel light when you can rep 200kg.
I can think back to when weights I lift now lift monsterously heavy, but they no longer do.
Caporegime
I've always thought that 'x' weight always feels like 'x' weight, but as I got stronger I was just able to "push through" lifting it. So 100kg still feels like 100kg did, but I am just able to lift it.
Doesn't make much sense, but I know what I mean so nerr
Doesn't make much sense, but I know what I mean so nerr
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This is what i wonder about, 100kg still feels like it always has to me but when it touches my chest the muscles just power it up like nothing. Maybe relative joint loading or something? The way i see it although muscles get stronger our joints have far less room for progress and improvement. Our genetics amongst other things predispose us to a weight category to which our joints are adapted.
My theory is that when we lift at and above our bodyweight our joints let our brain know that "S$£% just got real" and even though they can cope and our muscles can cope our brain still registers the weight as 'heavy'.
At least thats how weights feel to me. Ill let you know when im repping 200 if things have changed.
Also Lie what do you rep 100kg for then? I had you pegged in the 20 range we are close on maxes arent we (155ish)
Caporegime
Never done an all out set with 100kg. I did 117.5kg x 11 a few weeks back, that's as many reps as I've really done on bench press.
My max is 160, probably a little more right now.
My max is 160, probably a little more right now.
PErsonally, I think there's a big psychological element.
Four weeks ago, I'd have baulked at the idea of squatting more than 100kgs.
A week later, with the load across my shoulders (both front and back) and yes, it feels like 100kg, but it doesn't "feel" that heavy.
Muscle activation patterns also play a big part, too...
Four weeks ago, I'd have baulked at the idea of squatting more than 100kgs.
A week later, with the load across my shoulders (both front and back) and yes, it feels like 100kg, but it doesn't "feel" that heavy.
Muscle activation patterns also play a big part, too...
For squatting in particular I know when my setup is bang on, because suddenly I unrack and it doesn't feel heavy (assuming it's a weight I've previously repped etc.). If it feels heavy when I unrack, I'm not tight somewhere.
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i dont think when i lie down to warm up on 105kg that there is much psychological about it. But in more novice trainers i agree, i got a training partner to break 100kg on the 3rd week of trying by saying it was 90kg when it was really 102.5
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breaking the barrier initially is, once u benching more than 150kg i dont think it is.
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So i could add ~50kg to my bench without getting stronger just telling myself i can do it?
Man of Honour
So i could add ~50kg to my bench without getting stronger just telling myself i can do it?
You probably be surprised just how much your weights could go up by if someone else was loading the bar and telling you there was less weight on it, the mind is a powerful thing!
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So i could add ~50kg to my bench without getting stronger just telling myself i can do it?
errrr whut?
Am i being misheard here? What i said was 100kg feels heavy to me even tho i bench 150+
A reply from mrthingyx said that there was a psychological element to 100kg which i agreed with as many people i train struggle mentally to do 100kg even when they are strong enough.
I then, in response to delvis, stated that whilst it might be psychological for someone who can only bench 100 or so i doubted that i had an psychological issue with 100kg yet i still find the weight 'heavy'.
This is all i have said.
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