I feel like i take this diet nonsense the least seriously out of everyone here
Ummmm. No.
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It depends how advanced you are IMO. Recomps seem great for noobs (like I was) but I think if you have a good base to work off, it's better to lean more in one direction than another. With a good solid cut, I.F. style, you can see from the results on rippedbody.jp, for example, that you can get cut pretty quick if you're solid on the diet, so probably easiest to do one then the other.
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Oh yeh, forgot about cake man
>Thinking he is on /fit/
Easier than quoting sometimes to do the same thing
Are you saying the entire plan is crap or just poking fun at DB shrugs?
I think my plan was misleading. I'd do 6-8 sets of Squats and a maximum of 3 for, say, DB shoulder press.
Bicep work is largely a waste of time I appreciate this but it's something I enjoy doing. 3 sets of EZ bar curls is usually all I do.
I'm wasting so much energy considering these options I just need to bite the bullet and go for it. I think it will make more sense to bulk first, seeing as I haven't lifted weights for a while now I'll have to get back into the routine. Cutting should be easier to stick to closer to the time in terms of incentives/motivation.
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Scott, I would get rid of DB shrugs, one tricep specific and one bicep specific exercise (or alternate). Do you really need to polish your guns in front of the mirror with two different exercises AFTER doing DB row and chin-ups?
Are shrugs a complete waste of time then? They seem to be extremely popular in my gym yet their reputation on here clearly isn't great.
You know those kids you see in the gym doing set after set of bicep curls and making no progress as the months pass. Yes, that is/was me. I should know better because I've been told by far more experienced people time and time again that it's a complete waste of time and the focus should be on compounds but I've never understood why. It's like there's a hard coded desire in me to want to do loads of bicep curls because from experience I've always got the DOMS from doing so and thus think I'm doing it right. It just seems difficult as an inexperienced lifter to get your head round the fact that if you want big arms you should avoid training them directly
Is it that the isolated TR/BI exercises are inefficient or limited in what they can achieve?
Shrugs are a great finisher exercise for pro bodybuilers looking to really specifically develop their traps.
For your average gym rat, the risk of injury vs reward is just pointless. That energy and time would be so much more productive if used to do even some
Bar only clean and jerks, hell and I don't even oly lift.
Just like people who do a million tricep isolation exercises but don't do dips, it's a no brainer.
For your average gym rat, the risk of injury vs reward is just pointless. That energy and time would be so much more productive if used to do even some
Bar only clean and jerks, hell and I don't even oly lift.
Just like people who do a million tricep isolation exercises but don't do dips, it's a no brainer.
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Are shrugs a complete waste of time then? They seem to be extremely popular in my gym yet their reputation on here clearly isn't great.
You know those kids you see in the gym doing set after set of bicep curls and making no progress as the months pass. Yes, that is/was me. I should know better because I've been told by far more experienced people time and time again that it's a complete waste of time and the focus should be on compounds but I've never understood why. It's like there's a hard coded desire in me to want to do loads of bicep curls because from experience I've always got the DOMS from doing so and thus think I'm doing it right. It just seems difficult as an inexperienced lifter to get your head round the fact that if you want big arms you should avoid training them directly
Is it that the isolated TR/BI exercises are inefficient or limited in what they can achieve?
Yeah shrugs are m8. Use your traps rowing and deadlifting, then once u are a big mofo maybe do some shrugs for shaping.
The reason for compounds is hormones. The stress your body comes under doing heavy compounds makes it NEED to be bigger, all over. Growth hormone is super powerful, it controls fat retention, muscle mass and physical size. Testosterone is important too, but that is also boosted by heavy compounds and by overall muscle mass. Stimulating a small muscle like biceps wont help you grow overall and your body wont let you grow out of proportion.
Thanks for explaining that mate.
So thanks to the advice on here I've amended my routine. This should look better:
Session 1
DB Chest Press / BB Bench Press
DB Flies
Dips
EZ Skull Crushers
Session 2
Squats
Calf Raises
Lunges
DB Shoulder Press/BB Military Press
DB Side Lateral Raises
Session 3
Deadlifts
DB Row
Wide Grip Pull Ups/Chin Ups
EZ Bar Curl
Cheers
So thanks to the advice on here I've amended my routine. This should look better:
Session 1
DB Chest Press / BB Bench Press
DB Flies
Dips
EZ Skull Crushers
Session 2
Squats
Calf Raises
Lunges
DB Shoulder Press/BB Military Press
DB Side Lateral Raises
Session 3
Deadlifts
DB Row
Wide Grip Pull Ups/Chin Ups
EZ Bar Curl
Cheers
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Oh yeh, forgot about cake man
Hey, hey, hey. It takes a LOT of eating to keep your body in that shape!
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Whatever anyone tells u m8, thats absolutely fine. You could go years basically doing just that and if your eating and sleeping and pushing more and more weight you will do better than 90% of typical gym peeps
I'm trying for a perfect circle / ball shape. Im almost there!
I can see this being an issue, until I explained the link between posterior chain activation and core cohesion achieved with deads and the expert rodding she would be receiving.
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Stretch your adductors and quads/hip flexors.
It's probably just some tightness messing with your hip capsule.
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is the plan that eventually the atlas stones will just orbit you and you wont have to lift them?
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They are my moons
im not sure if something to be proud of. I think you need needling lol
Are shrugs a complete waste of time then? They seem to be extremely popular in my gym yet their reputation on here clearly isn't great.
You know those kids you see in the gym doing set after set of bicep curls and making no progress as the months pass. Yes, that is/was me. I should know better because I've been told by far more experienced people time and time again that it's a complete waste of time and the focus should be on compounds but I've never understood why. It's like there's a hard coded desire in me to want to do loads of bicep curls because from experience I've always got the DOMS from doing so and thus think I'm doing it right. It just seems difficult as an inexperienced lifter to get your head round the fact that if you want big arms you should avoid training them directly
Is it that the isolated TR/BI exercises are inefficient or limited in what they can achieve?
Don't worry - Dumbell shrugs make twitch more than most on here (UE has given te correct explanation) . Ice came up with a good summary of my position in Skill's log, but basically I'm just an old, disappointed phaggot that can't powerlift.
Big guy in the gym yesterday was DL with his mate. I don't normally bother what other people are doing but these guys were all over the place with their form, his back rounded right over smashing some heavy weught. I just cringed every time he repped.