*** The 2017 Gym Rats Thread ***

mrthingyx said:
Your original physio was probably correct but not helpful enough to tell you HOW to do band exercises.

Go and see a sports physio and sort your rehab (because you now have to undo 5 years of derp).

Whilst sorely tempting, he has hopefully realised the error of his ways... But then, it is Crossfit, so I should probably suggest he gets psychotherapy, too. ;) :D
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PermaChanged said:
A diagnosis of a damaged rotator cuff turned out to be a torn labrum for me, I had surgery back in October 2015 - I had major instability as opposed to weakness.

See if you can be referred for an MRI Arthrogram if you're privately covered.
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MoNkeE said:
That is probably very rare however Permabanned - a torn rotator cuff is a very common injury in those lifting not warmed up or with incorrect form (which will be the case if doing a Crossfit WOD at a weight too great for you).

Agreed with MrThingyX. It might sound like hassle going to a specialist over, however once you learn what rehab to do, your injury becomes very fixable. Short term inconvenience for long term gain.
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Thanks a lot for the help. Is there any minimum qualification I should look for in the sports physio?

On the old Crossfit topic, I know Crossfit isn't flavour of the month. I loathe a lot about it, but mainly I despise how it got corrupted - its stated ethos was excellent (IMO) but that ethos was based around accepting new and conflicting data, and adapting to incorporate that. Yet, from quite early on (I just looked back - I started in Summer 2009, and stopped when injured in 2012/3) they never actually seemed to do that.

I think it's a shame because I think they found a niche - broad-spectrum fitness - and said the right things - and had it been "staffed" by different people, it could have been an excellent, "crowd-sourced" decent fitness programme (just, maybe less profitable - which I guess is the crucial part).
 
Qualifications unfortunately don't mean a great deal when it comes to finding a good sports physio, where are you based? Someone may be able to recommend a decent one.
 
tom_e said:
Qualifications unfortunately don't mean a great deal when it comes to finding a good sports physio, where are you based? Someone may be able to recommend a decent one.
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That's what I thought might be the case - it's hard to know who's good.

I'm based near Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
 
garnett said:
That's what I thought might be the case - it's hard to know who's good.

I'm based near Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
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You're in the perfect place, plenty of bros from around there and IIRC there's a man known as "The Wizard" who will break you and rebuild you.

I'm sure someone will be along with proper details soon.
 
tom_e said:
You're in the perfect place, plenty of bros from around there and IIRC there's a man known as "The Wizard" who will break you and rebuild you.

I'm sure someone will be along with proper details soon.
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Technically, he isn't a physio (an osteopath, IIRC), but he knows lifting... and he is near Oxford, too... :(

Most musculoskeletal physios will have a brain, but look for ones attached to sports clubs.
 
So I am on the chest press watching a guy in the smith machine. Basically deadlifting (if you could call it that) 70kg with straps, plus chalk plus a belt along with mixed grip :p - fair enough if this is a heavy weight for you, but it looked well within his capability. Then I thought that he may be working with an injury, but to be fair it looked worse for mobility in the smith machine!
 
CaptainRAVE said:
So I am on the chest press watching a guy in the smith machine. Basically deadlifting (if you could call it that) 70kg with straps, plus chalk plus a belt along with mixed grip :p - fair enough if this is a heavy weight for you, but it looked well within his capability. Then I thought that he may be working with an injury, but to be fair it looked worse for mobility in the smith machine!
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This would make sense if you were benching... but you were on the chest press.

Shame. :o

;) :D
 
CaptainRAVE said:
I meant benching :) :D
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The chalk people are pretty annoying at Pure gym where I go. Really wish they would get a simple hyper extension bench to do lower back, they just have that crappy machine where you suppose to lean back that I don't fit into.
 
neoboy said:
The chalk people are pretty annoying at Pure gym where I go. Really wish they would get a simple hyper extension bench to do lower back, they just have that crappy machine where you suppose to lean back that I don't fit into.
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Who are chalk people?

The Pure Gym i go to is generally ok, its also going to be 24hr soon which i can't complain about. The only thing that annoys me is there are no straight bars for pullups/chin ups, other than a single one on a rack. It seems everything has to be angled nowadays, i always like the reassurance of a straight bar as you know you've done the rep when your chin is on top of the bar.

Do people ever bother to correct others with really bad form? I was surprised today as there were 2 guys deadlifting who had horrible form(at least they weren't hitching). One guy would watch the other while they did their set and neither bothered to correct the other even though their backs were more crooked than this bracket is (. If my back went like that i would be going home in a stretcher but i guess the body adapts to bad form to some degree or another, it also helps that they weren't doing heavy weights. I probably would have said something to them if they were on their own but there were other people nearby and I didn't want to show them up/look like a smart-arse. My form isn't always perfect but i generally know when i do something right or wrong just by the feel of it.
 
The vast majority of people deadlifting in a commercial gym don't know what a good deadlift should look like - or a bunch of the other barbell lifts that require some degree of technique and freedom of movement for that matter - and judge their lifts/their mates lifts by the metric of "did I pick the bar off the floor and stand up with it?", with no consideration as to how they actually got the weight from A to B.

I don't mind giving my 2 pence if asked but it's rare to get someone want feedback on their form or how they're moving; taters gonna tate, just let them get on with their quest to forcibly eject their spines.
 
I haven't even seen anyone do serious deadlifting in the gym, yet they somehow manage to leave the olympic bars caked in liquid chalk. That and the Lycra brigade with carefully choreographed outfits from latest Crossfit Monthly, who'll take up a power rack to do 10 sets of bodyweight squats to warm up, 5 with the empty bar and then finally do about 2 sets of actual squats. I mean warm is important and all, but can't you, you know do your bodyweight and bar squats without holding up the rack for extra 20 minutes?

My form isn't perfect either but I at least keep my back straight and manage to get by without unnecessary screaming and grunting.
 
It's scary how weak you become after nearly 6 months of not training properly/at all.

Slowly getting back there. 120kg squats for 10 today, and 150kg deads for 6. These used to be a warm up! :( :(
 
garnett said:
After some help, please (not sure if I belong here, but the thread seems full of decent knowledge).

Injured my shoulder 5 years ago (Crossfit WOD against the clock featuring fairly heavy cleans - so dumb in hindsight - I should have said, "No") and" fell out" of fitness (read, "got demoralised and lazy").

Started trying to get back in some kind of shape a week ago but the shoulder is still an issue.

Lateral cable raises and overhead presses sometimes hurt, sometimes are fine, and sometimes the shoulder is strong but often it just won't work/is weak/collapses.

5 years ago I got a pretty vague diagnosis of a torn rotator cuff, and a referral to a NHS physio who gave me some band work but it made no difference, we moved house, and I let it slide.

Has anyone got any tips on how I get this properly diagnosed and treated...I've got private healthcare cover through work if that opens up more options.

Thanks a lot for any help.
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My missus has just been diagnosed with the same thing. She's been to a proper sports physio who has given her strengthening exercises to do but she has to do these religiously twice a day. Pretty much everything else is off limits even cardio as most of it uses her shoulder. It seems it's just a case of doing these exercises and resting it, not pushing it hard too early and causing more problems which is what she has been doing to get it to this point! It's frustrating for her as she was doing well and now she can't do anything.
 
Freefaller said:
It's scary how weak you become after nearly 6 months of not training properly/at all.

Slowly getting back there. 120kg squats for 10 today, and 150kg deads for 6. These used to be a warm up! :( :(
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Tbh how weak you become after very little time at all. I feel I am having to go to the gym more and more just to maintain, yet alone to put muscle on. I have a 2 week holiday coming up and while I know the rest will do me good I also know that I will lose some gainz :(
 
I seem to have developed a worrying click in my knee when doing squats some time before now and 5 months ago when i did them last. Doesn't hurt but worrying seeing how I'm only doing very light 70kg sets for now (2000 calories a day) and it's in the knee that already had two surgeries on. Doesn't happen when I'm doing bodyweight or goblet squats so I'll work on these for now to see if that makes a difference in the next few weeks.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Tbh how weak you become after very little time at all. I feel I am having to go to the gym more and more just to maintain, yet alone to put muscle on. I have a 2 week holiday coming up and while I know the rest will do me good I also know that I will lose some gainz :(
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I haven't lost a huge amount of mass, but definitely have lost some, and not But my diet is in check and I walk a lot and am relatively active so I've not been doing nothing. I'm just not that bulky any more :( Legs and glutes are still massive though! :D


I'll get back to up 200+ kg squats and 250kg+ deads if I keep it up, it's just getting that consistent training going.
 
neoboy said:
I seem to have developed a worrying click in my knee when doing squats some time before now and 5 months ago when i did them last. Doesn't hurt but worrying seeing how I'm only doing very light 70kg sets for now (2000 calories a day) and it's in the knee that already had two surgeries on. Doesn't happen when I'm doing bodyweight or goblet squats so I'll work on these for now to see if that makes a difference in the next few weeks.
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It is the weight doing it, but not what you think.

You will squat differently with light weights, so you might have to think about how your are squatting... Is there a weight at which it starts?
 
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