The 5 year plan to £50k

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Ha! Not even good looking! But I appreciate the sentiment as there seems to be a lot of that 'hiring mentality' around at City firms... :o :o :o

ah it is so blatant in various industries, I used to share an office building with a city law firm. One time in a lift a rather poncy looking lawyer type got in with a very attractive female colleague - clearly discussing potential new recruits from some event they were having. The female colleague said something along the lines of 'and what did you think of the, erm, fat one' and his reply was one of disgust - went into a semi rant about how he couldn't believe that someone invited her to come etc..

I guess there is also that linkedin story that hit the press a while back - some female barrister with an attractive linkedin photo and some douche solicitor old enough to be her dad decided to get flirty by sending her a message... It seems that females who work in certain client facing jobs such as city law firms, front office sales roles in banks and the lowly receptionist roles are often very attractive relative to the general population.

edit as I don't want to identify the lawyer concerned
 
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It's pretty prevalent in my industry. I know girls with average intelligence coining it in as PA, EA, receptionists and general admins. It's all relative.. I don't mean these people are on six figures... but paid more generously than they would perhaps get in other industries.

Companies and their locations are often described by who sits on the front desks... and it's no secret that certain boxes compete for the best eye candy.

I recon if we plotted a graph of women in client facing roles, bust v earnings, the correlation would be very much positive...

Extremely sexist I know.. but it exists.

And they moan they aren't treated fairly :p

Edit; anecdotal but I know of a girl who underwent enhancement surgery purely for financial gain in the long term. Seems to be paying off...
 
Look what I have started :eek::D

To bring some balance I reckon if you are a reasonably decent looking chap it helps as well. Probably science, init!
 
Companies and their locations are often described by who sits on the front desks... and it's no secret that certain boxes compete for the best eye candy.

is that Lloyd's?

Look what I have started :eek::D

To bring some balance I reckon if you are a reasonably decent looking chap it helps as well. Probably science, init!

I think there is some advantage to being taller as a guy - taller men tend to be more likely to be promoted etc..

but I do think women have more of a raw deal in this area, especially as they get older
 
maybe it's where you live but seems a big figure....I remember reading this thread when it as first posted and thinking 27k was fine!

I just came across this thread, read the first page and saw the date so skipped straight to the end to see an update. Then went back from there and saw this post and saw his location and suddenly it felt all too real.

So I have been in IT for 2 years now. Also currently unemployed due to previous company not fulfilling their promise of training me and my salary just not budging. I have pretty much saved as much as I can for a house deposit and I wanted a new car. New car money is currently what I am living off. Anyway... I'm self studying. I'm taking my Microsoft exams myself and I just recently had an interview for a 2nd line into 3rd line role but I had to turn it down. Salary was not an increase and I have decided I am done with Cornwall. My partner lives in Exeter and her career just keeps getting better up there. Fair enough for me the pay jump is not much but just so many more opportunities and I won't need to commute 40 minutes anywhere.

I read a few of your posts and we seem to have the same goals. All I want is a house of my own, a decent living wage (can't believe you were lucky enough to be on 27k for a year!) and career progression. It doesn't need to be dramatic but I want to keep learning and increasing my knowledge. This is IT, if you slow down someone else will take the job you are after.

I'm not saying you need to get out of Cornwall to solve all your problems but lets be honest this place has nothing going for it. The only reason it manages to literally stay afloat is because of tourism.

If you want to know of any jobs going feel free to email me (in trust). I know a couple of places which will be OK but expect 19-20k.
 
Look what I have started :eek::D

To bring some balance I reckon if you are a reasonably decent looking chap it helps as well. Probably science, init!

With men I think it helps to look physically stronger rather than having boyish good looks, a rugged, tall, robust looking man can instantly garner the respect of men and women without even saying anything. Doesn't make a lot of difference in the grand scheme of things really as just like a very small percentage of women are extremely good looking, there's a very small percent of men who're tall, rugged and well built. 6'3 puts you in the top 2% (UK) and it's around that height where you start to look imposing over others as long as you aren't noodle armed with narrow shoulders.
 
Some firms do require an LPC to 'paralegal'. Otherwise you are a paralegal by another name.

Some firms strongly prefer paralegals to have an LPC, when there is a section of candidates. Otherwise, it's not a requirement. It's not uncommon for people in your brother's situation to do the LPC part time whilst continuing to paralegal.

As for it being 'hard' to get a TC, is it's definitely 'competitive' to get a good one. I know a couple of people that have struggled but have since persevered - well done to them.

When I used to look for paralegal jobs (having done the LPC) I also saw a large number of places which offered those jobs only to those who already had a TC secured.

I found that quite unfair tbh since people without the TC are the ones that need it most. My tiny way of pushing back against this now is that if the intern position we have is between two similar people, I'd advocate for the one without the TC.


Separate point...but there are a few lawyers on here and seem relatively aligned. I wonder if we should start a separate thread for anyone who has questions about it since it isn't a particularly transparent industry (discounting ROF :p)?
 
I think it is more the consulting/sales aspect tbh.. some traders have ridiculous egos but are often a bit geekier than sales who are invariably the beautiful people, especially the females
 
With earned money will often come ego and attitude. It then filters down to those who have not done anything, but think they have arrived because they are in at the foot of the ladder and mixing in those circles. These are easy to spot as they wear 5K suits with no socks and a big watch, but live in a 1 bedroom half million quid bed sit and eat cold beans.
 
I think it is more the consulting/sales aspect tbh.. some traders have ridiculous egos but are often a bit geekier than sales who are invariably the beautiful people, especially the females

From what I saw during my short time spent at a bank, this couldn't be truer. Sales were generally the best looking, with those in equity research and the quant teams leaning more towards the less attractive end of the spectrum.
 
I think it is more the consulting/sales aspect tbh.. some traders have ridiculous egos but are often a bit geekier than sales who are invariably the beautiful people, especially the females

Agreed there. In O&G the technical staff are normal people but most sales visits will include one older senior staff member and one young super attractive 20 something who seems to be there just as a face.
 
I think it is more the consulting/sales aspect tbh.. some traders have ridiculous egos but are often a bit geekier than sales who are invariably the beautiful people, especially the females

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(Can't he a trader without using as few works as possible in communications :D)

With men I think it helps to look physically stronger rather than having boyish good looks, a rugged, tall, robust looking man can instantly garner the respect of men and women without even saying anything. Doesn't make a lot of difference in the grand scheme of things really as just like a very small percentage of women are extremely good looking, there's a very small percent of men who're tall, rugged and well built. 6'3 puts you in the top 2% (UK) and it's around that height where you start to look imposing over others as long as you aren't noodle armed with narrow shoulders.

Is 6`3 really 2%?

Alas I still have the noodle arms and my chest is only 44" so this explains why I'm not director. :mad:

I certainly do not feel like im in the 2%. Then again I work in an IM so maybe dowie point is right. :p
 
From what I saw during my short time spent at a bank, this couldn't be truer. Sales were generally the best looking, with those in equity research and the quant teams leaning more towards the less attractive end of the spectrum.

Positive reinforcement from childhood, grow up naturally more confident, continue that confidence over to sales and end up in role where confidence is helpful. However saying that there are guys I know (not exactly what I consider attractive) who have worked on themselves and are incredible speakers who work in sales. Trained themselves up. I think one took public speaking classes or something actually.

With men I think it helps to look physically stronger rather than having boyish good looks, a rugged, tall, robust looking man can instantly garner the respect of men and women without even saying anything. Doesn't make a lot of difference in the grand scheme of things really as just like a very small percentage of women are extremely good looking, there's a very small percent of men who're tall, rugged and well built. 6'3 puts you in the top 2% (UK) and it's around that height where you start to look imposing over others as long as you aren't noodle armed with narrow shoulders.

Good thing i'm swole, I bench ur mum m8!!1
 
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