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But clothes and stuff are just so boring/rip off. If it's all literally for someone else's benefit then I'm even less inclined to give a ****.
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But clothes and stuff are just so boring/rip off. If it's all literally for someone else's benefit then I'm even less inclined to give a ****.
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Maybe in past, these days you can actually dress pretty sharp on a budget.
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Yeah but you have to be interested in that sort of stuff, I never have and starting now just seems a waste of time that I don't have, I barely get time to wash the pants I have without buying flashy tartan ones
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Requiring an LPC is probably an indication of just how many people want to work there.I'm quite surprised some places require an LPC to paralegal. I've never worked as one, but my brother found it incredibly easy after having only done the GDL, and I get the impression he'd've been fine without that (in terms of doing the job, not getting it). I understand it's not uncommon to do the LPC part time whilst working as a paralegal, but I'm not sure if it's a great move... again it goes back to when I asked if there are figures regarding the proportion of LPC students who self fund, and figures for the proportion of self funders who actually become solicitors... that's what we need to know if self funding is sensible or not.
Competitive to get a good one seems like a reasonable state of affairs... it obviously shouldn't be easy, if we want there to be good standard, imo. I'm not sure how good you mean by good, though.
I think a 'good TC' (merely from a CV perspective) is what most people might broadly equate to the 'top 50' commercial law firms (typically ranked by turnover) but that's not to say those sitting outside of that are 'bad firms', far from it. I don't think anyone is particularly precious about it. Top 50 firms work with and against each other on matters all the time... I've dealt with the majority of them and plenty of good lawyers amongst most of them (really though I suppose you just get a flavour from the handful of lawyers you deal with).
You'll just have to apply and see how you get on
Haha - if you haven't guessed I'm fishing to find out what you actually doWe're still nowhere nearer knowing if it's worth the gamble self funding the LPC or not
From a quick google here's some info on success rates but it doesn't really cover the same express point:
https://www.allaboutlaw.co.uk/law-news/just-how-likely-is-it-that-i-ll-get-a-training-contract
With that, you have to factor in that some people that do the LPC are pretty useless and get nowhere, and that the figures quoted don't reveal how 'good' the TCs are, with the 'good' ones being more competitive.
Some other outdated info:
https://l2b.thelawyer.com/issues/l2b-online/65-students-chasing-each-training-contract-vacancy/
This also gives some numbers on the dip at the time of the recession.
https://www.allaboutlaw.co.uk/stage...are-my-chances-of-getting-a-training-contract
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Oh to have been a fly on the wall for this kerfuffle!
I was all over this a while ago, stay the hell away would be my advise, you'll feel like a cash cow for the uniWe're still nowhere nearer knowing if it's worth the gamble self funding the LPC or not
It was a three page entry in my diary.
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Are we talking casual chinos or chinos with a crease? I'm guessing casual because 3 pages is pretty hardcore.
fake edit: or were they an unorthodox colour? Or - oh God - an unusual colour and casual?
fake edit: or were they an unorthodox colour? Or - oh God - an unusual colour and casual?
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If you can't pull off a white pair then don't bother.
....and Steps always need new talent.
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What a tragedy.
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ORANGE! What kind of half-baked loons do you recruit? However, I will fist fight anyone who has issues with an appropriately rolled sleeve on the proviso that it's by design rather than necessity (your shirt doesn't fit properly because you bought it from the toilet store).
Sometimes it's a cufflinks day and sometimes it is not.
I know, right! Rolled sleeves on the first day in the team though... we expect ultra Boy Scout polished shoes and jacket. Rolled sleeves is like "Well, we might as well all go home cause maverick over there has it covered"
@Moses I think the people that self-fund aren't good enough 'on paper' to get a TC right out of the gate, at which point you're then relying on experience to win over employers. There are jobs when the business demands it and if you have someone raring to go right now that's done LPC (which you might not have to pay for), it can be a foreseeable plus point on that application.
The same point applies to your brother - why would he pay for the GDL without a TC *shrug* - motivation for the career I guess.
Missed this in my last post- interesting career? I'm always thwarted (and by that I mean I have to defer to the tax guys) by tax structuring.... tax is something that frequently catches lawyers out, I think. Have had opposing lawyers go 'arghhhh poop this doesn't work for tax reasons - sorrryyyyy'. Even VAT can be complicated (to the layman) when you're trying to figure out if something is legitimate chargeable supply... and the value of that supply in a complex deal.
I've actually thought of specialising in tax myself.
Soldato
Starting to sound like the execs discussing clothes in American Psycho
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That whole Yale thing?Starting to sound like the execs discussing clothes in American Psycho
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