The absolute state of pubs these days

My local opposite my house is £3.80 for Carling / £5 Stella / £5.20 for peroni. These prices are crazy for essentially fizzy water with hops.

It also sometimes closes at 830pm now and they turn away people walking into the pub. News years eve it closed at 9pm. Presumably to save on energy.

Luckily there is a spoons 15 minutes walk away where I can get ruddles ale for £1.59 / carlsberg for £2.29 and this pub is packed every single night
Carling is pretty efficient though, most pubs operate a refill system straight from the urinals.
 
My local opposite my house is £3.80 for Carling / £5 Stella / £5.20 for peroni. These prices are crazy for essentially fizzy water with hops.

It also sometimes closes at 830pm now and they turn away people walking into the pub. News years eve it closed at 9pm. Presumably to save on energy.

Luckily there is a spoons 15 minutes walk away where I can get ruddles ale for £1.59 / carlsberg for £2.29 and this pub is packed every single night
Billionaire owner able to keep prices low and destroying local small businesses, not a great situation.
 
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A lot of it is the breweries pricing pubs out.

It's one of the biggest scandals in the UK.

They demand that X amount of customers come in per day and that the pub sells a certain amount too. If they don't then the prices go up. So they eventually price themselves out of business.

The landlords/ladies can be either staff who are moved around, or people who have invested in the pub. But sooner or later they realise the pricing model can't survive.

I've heard the same breweries are undercutting their own pubs by selling to the supermarkets.

General trends these days is that not as many people drink. Apparently 1 in 4 Gen Z'ers have drank a pint. The party culture seems to have gone.

Most of the pubs I drank in the 90's early 00's have gone.

One time I visited a pub at Rochdale football ground for an event there, and the price of a pint was quite high (can't remember the exact price). Then the week after I noticed the pub was shut. About a month later I was in Rochdale again at another pub and the the same landlord from the other place was at this other pub. He said pubs just can't survive because of the constant targets they are being forced to meet.
 
Was actually talking about this with a colleague last night who has recently started after being let go from a nearby pub - one of the problems was trying to manage the costs with increasingly hard to predict patterns of demand - one night it would go mental, the next they might have 1-2 customers the whole evening without much rhyme or reason though partly linked to the pandemic, making decisions on staffing tough and managing costs complicated.

Yeah, I went into a place last week and it was heaving. Same place this week, same night, I was the only one there. I ordered one pint and left, then they shut.
 
Billionaire owner able to keep prices low and destroying local small businesses, not a great situation.

Yep, then once the smaller places are gone and there's no choice, the prices go up...

Compared to the damage wreaked by some of the big brewers on the pub industry with tied houses, Weatherspoons is literally small beer.
I think that there is a lot of gripe about him and his politics but most of his houses are well run, clean and reasonably priced for food and drink. If there is a university nearby, they tend to be packed with students during term time.
 
This will be (already is) another sector to hit by the living cost crisis.

Most will close due to the very small number of customers who still use them.
 
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Compared to the damage wreaked by some of the big brewers on the pub industry with tied houses, Weatherspoons is literally small beer.
I think that there is a lot of gripe about him and his politics but most of his houses are well run, clean and reasonably priced for food and drink. If there is a university nearby, they tend to be packed with students during term time.

Sure they have an impact too, but look at price difference in the post I quoted, says it all. You say his prices are reasonably priced, I say small businesses can't compete, both statements are true.
 
Billionaire owner able to keep prices low and destroying local small businesses, not a great situation.

That's business. At the end of the day, convenience and price will always win out.

That's why so many of us use Amazon. We know it's exploitative and that they treat their warehouse workers like ****, but we still use it.
 
That's business. At the end of the day, convenience and price will always win out.

That's why so many of us use Amazon. We know it's exploitative and that they treat their warehouse workers like ****, but we still use it.
True, although Amazon do take the ****.
 
Two spoons pubs near me. Both really decent: good food, good beer, very cheap prices indeed. I was surprised at the one in Greenwich during the world cup, the food was actually nice - chicken katsu curry and two pints of beer for £11.

That's how it should be. The clientelle are meh but you can put up with them for those prices. Honestly it's worth it for the value you get.

I think my promoting on Wetherspoons is becoming a bit of a running theme on the forums but I genuinely enjoy our local one.

I think there are vast differences between the pubs though, obviously the food drink etc are going to be much the same, but the cleanliness and atmosphere.

For example my local Wetherspoons (Whittlesey, Cambs) is as they go really quite nice, it's in the site of a very old hotel many hundreds on years old, pretty clean in there toilets etc ok, and the staff are friendly.

When I was going to Wales in the summer we stopped off at one in Leominster, which seemed quite nice.

Then another one I occasionally go to is Southgate in North London and that one isn't so great.

Montague Pike up from Leicester Square is another, again a bit average......

So it does vary.
 
Montague Pike up from Leicester Square is another, again a bit average......

So it does vary.

Ah yes, the Montague Pike! Been a while.

I know what you mean, it obviously depends on management. Some are very decent, some not. The Postal Order in Crystal Palace always used to have toothless vagrants outside it asking for money... turns out it was the customers.
 
Yet a beer is probably healthier than the same amount of coke for example. I’d argue sugar is the most damaging drug..
You’ll probably find that most coke sold on the street contains at best 10% cocaine if your lucky.

I wouldn’t recommend substituting a drinking habit for a coke habit though, far more better drugs for you such as the sweet herb.
 
You’ll probably find that most coke sold on the street contains at best 10% cocaine if your lucky.

I wouldn’t recommend substituting a drinking habit for a coke habit though, far more better drugs for you such as the sweet herb.

I think he was talking about Coca Cola...
 
That's another thing. I was going to do dry January but a coke in my local is £3.50 so I thought sod it might as well pay 30p more for a Carling.

I guess it's the same business pricing strategy as wanting a 4080 and thinking bugger it I'll buy a 4090 for £400 more
 
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That's another thing. I was going to do dry January but a coke in my local is £3.50 so I thought sod it might as well pay 30p more for a Carling.

I guess it's the same business pricing strategy as wanting a 4080 and thinking bugger it I'll buy a 4090 for £400 more
Thing is I was buying crates of Bud last year and over the World Cup at it worked out 50p a bottle.

I’ll pay for a pint if I’m in a pub but the desire to actually want to go to one is just not their.
 
Don't think I've been out for a few pints since probably November now. Our local area was around £6 a pint last year, so would be interested how much that's gone up since.

I think we'll see pubs far and few between in a couple of years.
 
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