The Air Rifles & Pistols thread

spankingtexan · 1 Jun 2012 at 11:37

is everyday 3in1 oil ok for guns?

haaammit · 1 Jun 2012 at 19:58

spankingtexan said:
is everyday 3in1 oil ok for guns?

It depends on where you are planning on putting it :eek:

What do you need to lubricate? For air guns, the metalwork is best kept in best condition by using a product called Napier Airgun Oil - it comes in an aerosol.

The insides depend on if it's a spring powered gun or a pre-charged pneumatic. PCPs run on very highly pressured air, and certain oils/greases can explode at these pressures.

What do you need to lube?

TaKeN · 1 Jun 2012 at 20:31

Would love a HW45 for the farm rats.

Close range would be fine (below 20mtrs) Usually 10ish. Easily lethal!!

Albo · 1 Jun 2012 at 20:36

Good substitute for keeping the bluing rust free is motor oil. Pretty much the same as gun oil

Amidar · 1 Jun 2012 at 20:41

I've used STP silicone spray for years to protect my guns blueing from corrosion.

spankingtexan · 2 Jun 2012 at 17:00

Quink said:
It depends on where you are planning on putting it

What do you need to lubricate? For air guns, the metalwork is best kept in best condition by using a product called Napier Airgun Oil - it comes in an aerosol.

The insides depend on if it's a spring powered gun or a pre-charged pneumatic. PCPs run on very highly pressured air, and certain oils/greases can explode at these pressures.

What do you need to lube?

Just the moving parts, trigger, hammer, swingout chamber ect, it's for the dan wesson 4inch revolver and the instructions say to put a drop of oil on one of the bb's, I thought this was a little strange but it does say to do it.
the 3 in one oil is just temporary though as i'll pick some gun oil up next time I visit the gun shop.

Mark A · 2 Jun 2012 at 17:36

I'd get some silicone oil if its for use around seals.

For trigger sears I use a very small dab of molybdenum grease.

arekgreenman888 · 3 Jun 2012 at 16:19

How often to oil up tx200hc? I've done about 6000 shots through it and it does sound a bit odd when cocking. Does not sound as smooth as when first bought.

robj20 · 3 Jun 2012 at 16:38

CV joint grease is best for internals, save your self some money its all the same as the fancy dedicated airgun grease. Keep silicone oil aways from metal on metal. 3-in-1 is great for blueing and general cleaning of parts.

Mark A · 3 Jun 2012 at 17:04

Has anyone here had a V-glide tune for their HW97/77? Looks amazing but I can't seem to find a price or where to buy from. Seems to be sold in airgun stores in the USA, but not here :confused:

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Comes with a delrin studded piston and air chamber and all the other bits you get with the normal Venom stage 1/ v-mach.

arekgreenman888 · 3 Jun 2012 at 19:06

Anyone know a good guide how to maintain springer? Be great if there was a youtube video someone taking one apart and showing what and how... ta

Mark A · 3 Jun 2012 at 20:11

You will find something if you search youtube or google.

netby · 3 Jun 2012 at 20:51

Mark A said:
Has anyone here had a V-glide tune for their HW97/77? Looks amazing but I can't seem to find a price or where to buy from. Seems to be sold in airgun stores in the USA, but not here .

Comes with a delrin studded piston and air chamber and all the other bits you get with the normal Venom stage 1/ v-mach.

I have a friend that has both the VMatch and the VGlide tunning kit from Steve Pope - for a HW 97KT .177 ( FAC version)

great kit´s , after the tunning the springer has improved a lot

you could buy it directly from Steve or in any one of the retailers

the VGlide is a bit expensive

http://www.air-rifle-tuning.com/v-mach/Retailers_and_Fitting_Services.html

arekgreenman888 · 3 Jun 2012 at 21:43

Found this guide, is it any good?

Mark A · 3 Jun 2012 at 21:50

netby said:
I have a friend that has both the VMatch and the VGlide tunning kit from Steve Pope - for a HW 97KT .177 ( FAC version)

great kit´s , after the tunning the springer has improved a lot

you could buy it directly from Steve or in any one of the retailers

the VGlide is a bit expensive

http://www.air-rifle-tuning.com/v-mach/Retailers_and_Fitting_Services.html

I already have the standard venom stage 1 (v-mach) tune in my HW97k and it did make a big difference from the standard gun, but from what I have read the full vglide totally transforms the rifle. There appears to be vglide kits for sale in the states, but yet in Britain where they are made they are not on any online stores. Their website site also doesn't really give much info on them.

Did you shoot both rifles? Would you say the Vglide was worth the extra cost over the standard tune?

BTW, I think i have just come accross one of your posts on another forum regarding making the HW97 silencer quieter. I think i might have to give that a try as my current silencer just had 2 springs inside it. One inside the other to create some basic baffles. I thin I ill give your method a try with washers and alu tubing.

arekgreenman888, Didn't you say you have a TX200? You would be better off looking at a guide for that if you want to strip it.

http://targetshooter.myfreeforum.or...e-air-arms-tx200-and-prosport__o_t__t_50.html - This seems like a good guide with pics. There are a few more if you search for TX200 strip.

arekgreenman888 · 4 Jun 2012 at 00:46

Thanks for supporting fellow gun lover in our small yet solid gun community.

One shot kill from Irish lad.

arekgreenman888 · 4 Jun 2012 at 22:05

Just to let folk now how good that video of lubing air guns is. Followed it and now tx200 is not making any noise while cocking. It is smooth as if on lube... Perhaps it is advisable to lube your air gun every up to 3000 shots. And not like some who might go even 5000 shots without lubing.

Brilliant job done!

robj20 · 5 Jun 2012 at 10:15

A service once a year is plenty. Unless you drop it in a puddle or something then obviously give it a going over, but otherwise even 5000 shots between service is a bit often.

arekgreenman888 · 5 Jun 2012 at 12:14

robj20 said:
A service once a year is plenty. Unless you drop it in a puddle or something then obviously give it a going over, but otherwise even 5000 shots between service is a bit often.

Well I know air rifle that fired about 5000 shots. Whilst around that number it developed a noise while cocking. This noise was not present before. After lubing spring noise has reduced in intensity by about 80%!

Thus servicing every 3000 shots seems just about right.

If I recall correctly servicing every 3000-5000 shots was advised by shop owner of a reputable gun shop - PAX GUN's in London.

spankingtexan · 6 Jun 2012 at 11:06

Oh god choices, choices, had decided on getting a hw95 but after lots of youtube vids, reviews and advise from you guys I am now torn between the following..
Air arms TX200
Air arms prosport
Weihrauch HW97K
Theoben Evolution

Wich one of the above is best? I got 4 weeks to decide.
Thanks.