Not disputing what you're saying but 10kg in 8 months?! Of lean muscle? Are you sure?
Well I was 92kgs when I started in ocotber I'm 102 now and pinching my abs, pictures and an old belt that I've gone 2 holes back says I've dropped a bit of bf as well. I'll consider that negiligible, but I still think 25lbs is a fair bet.
Also creatine ISN'T a magic powder and not everybody responds to it - in my diet I get a fair bit of creatine (more than I need) in my diet anyway so I see very little gained from taking creatine. However you might be one of these people that responds well. How many different supps ar you taking? I would hazard a guess that if you were to stop taking them you'd probably drop a fair bit of weight.
Of course is not a magic powder, but are you sure you get enough from your diet? I mean if memory recalls, 1kg of red meat has 5g of creatine which for a guy that weighs as much as me isn't much...
I must be a lucky person, yes. The only other thing I'm taking is glutamine, which as I said has helped a lot with my recovery.
Apart from that it's whey, (with dextrose/maltodextrin pwo), glucosamine sulphate and cod liver oil some Zinc so that I can keep those damn stretch mark under control
and the odd vitamin here and there. And of course a reasonable diet.
I've done that "experiment" twice when I stopped going to the gym for a month each time, as you said I did drop a bit of weight, but I honestly blame not going to the gym at all. Each time I've put back everything I've lost in terms of strength and weight in a week and a half.
I've also noticed that for me it's better to cycle creatine, after taking it for a month it's useless so I stopped for 3 weeks, again no weight loss or in terms of strength, I've even progressed a bit in terms of strength. But when I came back on it the impulse was great for the strength.
How long have you been in the game for? From a lot of the things you say and the way you say them it does sound to me like you're still a little "naive" (and I don't mean that in the way it sounds) about it all, I don't mean that in a bad way as I was exactly the same
Well the first time I've read some articles and laid my hand on a dumbbell my dad made was about... 8 years ago. Before that I couldn't even do one push up and was a "pear shaped" individual, but in a couple of months I gained a lot of weight, lost a lot of fat, and could even do 15 chins, let alone push ups.
But I was 12 back then, so the age must have plaid a very important role. Since then I've just messed around, I've never managed to train the whole body in one week cause i always got distracted and wasn't serious at all. And at home with just a dumbbell and fixed weight barbell there wasn't that much to do. That was untill last october when I stepped in a gym for the first time and only skipped about 2 or 3 trainings since then.(well apart from the 2 months that i didn't have access to a gym) The gym was close, I had lots of free time, so why not. So I am new in the gym game, but I think I know a bit about bodybuilding, although admitingly still wet-behind-the-ears sometimes.
You may just be lucky genetically in which case I'm envious - I'm quite lucky to be powerfully built, but I still have to work till I bleed to make progress and it's taken me over 3 years to gain just about 20lbs of LBM - I've gained more all together but actual LEAN muscle mass I've been measured in at around 20lbs - which is quite some feat for natural training. Admittedly I've been focusing on strength and power training more over the past 8 months or so to help with rugby and sports.
I honestly doubt it, because I've seen quite a few guys that were so much stronger and better built than me without ever stepping in a gym or even doing any sports. Heck I had a flatmate here whose arms are the same size as mine now and that could bench 75kgs the first time he stepped in a gym (took me like 4-5 months for that lol) He is genetically gifted, not me. I do admit that I wasn't a scrawny person before going to the gym but I've also worked hard whereas some people(and by this I do not mean you at all) simply do nothing and complain all day that they are "hard gainers" whereas their main problem is "hardly working".
I apologise if my post comes across as rude or insulting, it's not meant to at all - but I spend a lot of time reading a lot of research, going to bodybuilding expos, speaking to many many experts, and sometimes I get a little cross with a lot of keyboard/armchair experts poo-pooing all that years and years of experience and expertise are saying.
no offense taken, tell you what this week I'm gonna come with pictures and measurements of before and after me going to the gym. does that sound fair?
(with proper form)