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Failed a 110kg seated shoulder press tonight. Managed to press it to just over head height (my sticking point) and hold it for a few seconds before aborting
Try standing!
If it is then you...
a. Don't have your elbows high enough
b. Are bending too far forwards so the weight is falling forwards
c. Don't have the bar in the correct position.
(any combination of above)
In theory you should be able to do front squats with your arms straight out in front of you if you have the above 3 fixed.
my lower back does not like that idea at all.
this is probably made worse by the fact that I train shoulders a day after back and its as sore as it can be.
I mean I can do 8 reps with 30kg dumbbells stead, and about the same with a 50 kg barbell while standing.
Seated, it's a whole different story.
Caporegime
Yes but in practice, which is what matters, it's easier to ensure that the barbell is stable using a clean grip. In my very humble no-mass-on-legs opinion
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Caporegime
Yes but in practice, which is what matters, it's easier to ensure that the barbell is stable using a clean grip. In my very humble no-mass-on-legs opinion
I actually disagree. From my own experience (so others might not get the same) I have found that holding in the clean grip too long burns my tris out.
also, the bar across the shoulders in a clean grip doesnt sit as right as it down xover.
xover grip is a lot more stable for me :]
No leg work?
No chest work?
1 Back exercise? (lots of muscles there!)
Too much ab work!
None of the big 3? (Deadlift, bench, squat)
Read the sticky and give gordy's 3 day split a shot. And dont worry, your not your get huge over night.
Soldato
Yes mate, I think it is for most people. But I'm fed up trying to convince rob.
This
Caporegime
I'm not the only one that believes this you know!
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-front-squat-with-proper-technique.
Do it properly folks
.The ONLY advantage to the crossover grip, is that it's easier to perform, which is not a good reason to employ that method.
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Soldato
Do any of those Olympic lifters have physiques you aspire to? I know they don't for me, yet the only picture on that site you linked of a bodybuilder has him doing it cross over...
Caporegime
Don't like standing shoulder press. Seems to put a lot of pressure on my lower back and completely hinders my lifting. Don't think I've ever push pressed more than 70kg for a few reps standing so a normal shoulder press would be pointless weight.
Soldato
i agree with Pigeon killer, shoulder press should be done (safety wise) seated due to the pressure on lower back (even if you don't feel it, give it time) One incorrect lift can put your mid and upper back out for months.
Caporegime
I prefer standing shoulder press. My back feels like it is actively working to keep straight, where as seated it slumps and I am reliant on the chair. It is also difficult for me to keep a straight back when seated, compared to standing. 
Soldato
Squeeze your glutes when you do it then. This will stop your lower back from rounding and also help with your lift
I certainly prefer the standing press over and above the seated
Mmm even squeezing the glutes when getting to heavy weights and keeping the form VERY strict, to not put even a little pressure on your lower back is quite difficult
Soldato
Soldato
I agree, their power is absolutely insane.
I have never got on with standing as it puts way too much pressure on my lower back. I think its due to having to lean back slightly more than you should because of shoulder inflexibility (and look where that got me).
What the hells he on about mate? Some seriously good form on that curl though.
Soldato
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