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They aren't losing market share at the top end of the market which is where they compete mostly as far as I know.

Isn't the flash memory (NAND?) they use a lot faster than MicroSD cards?

Well last I check they lost marketshare and I think that is only start, they've going to lose more is this is the best then can do.

These cards are more than fast enough to record 1080p video and watch HD movies, how fast do they really need to be?
 
I will probably be buying one, but only because I'm currently on the iPhone 3G.

I'd find it pretty difficult to make a case for upgrading from the 4 to the 4S. Doesn't make sense when you could wait another year for the sixth-gen iPhone, which is pretty much guaranteed to be a fresh design.

Apple knows two things: that the iPhone has a very high customer loyalty rate, and that most iPhone users are on 18-month or 24-month contracts. Those people who are out of contract (and thus ripe for an upgrade) will be on the 3GS, not the 4. It makes plenty of commercial sense to release a major upgrade every 2 years when your user base is very loyal.
 
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Well last I check they lost marketshare and I think that is only start, they've going to lose more is this is the best then can do.

The market share arguments are always tricky because you can get an Android phone for £50-100 from new and that isn't the case with the iPhone.

These cards are more than fast enough to record 1080p video and watch HD movies, how fast do they really need to be?

Coming from the guy slating a dual-core phone because it isn't clocked fast enough... :D
 
Siri just isn't that interesting, it has limited applications due to environment. Who wants to be on a bus and start talking to your phone.
Its fine if your on your own in private location, but that's a very small part of our day to day life unless your a jobless recluse which at this phones price seems unlike to be its target buyer.
Its feature that I think isn't a core one for day to day use constantly.

Perhaps in England but Americans will love making sure everyone can hear them talking to their phone. Also I think there's a stigma with voice recog that you have to sound like you're talking to a 4 year old child for it to understand you, which would obviously attract lulzy glances. If Siri works as well as it appears to and you just talk to it as you would a friend, then most people will probably think you're just on the phone. Also being self-conscious ftl
 
Chuffed:

It's be a nice upgrade from my now very aging 3GS
The voice control thing looks awesome and is something I'll actually use
More speed and power is always good, something will come along to make use of it

Not chuffed:

I'm still not mad on the iPhone 4 shape. I'd best get used to it though.
 
I will probably be buying one, but only because I'm currently on the iPhone 3G.

I'd find it pretty difficult to make a case for upgrading from the 4 to the 4S. Doesn't make sense when you could wait another year for the sixth-gen iPhone, which is pretty much guaranteed to be a fresh design.

Apple knows two things: that the iPhone has a very high customer loyalty rate, and that most iPhone users are on 18-month or 24-month contracts. Those people who are out of contract (and thus ripe for an upgrade) will be on the 3GS, not the 4. It makes plenty of commercial sense to release a major upgrade every 2 years when your user base is very loyal.

Nail. Head. Tick tock and all that.
 
Well last I check they lost marketshare and I think that is only start, they've going to lose more is this is the best then can do.

If you look at it as just being a phone release then yeah i suppose lots will be disappointed, but its not just a phone launch is it?

Coming up is a well integrated cloud service which is designed from the ground up to work seamlessly with mac and i devices, rather then being 'tagged on' like rival efforts.

Honestly, through IOS 5 and assistant (which ill find amazingly useful) and good cloud implementation, theres nothing rival companies offer which is really better, unless you want to show off your synthetic benchmark scores from your uber 1337 quad core processor which achieves you no real life performance gains considering a 2 core loads apps just as instantly.
 
If I'm going to fork out £500 for a phone, I want it have the best hardware possible at that time, Apple are not providing this so I'll look elsewhere.

I'll feel like less of a man if my phone doesn't come first in synthetic benchmark apps. Real world use and iOS's app switching not being particularly CPU-demanding is irrelevant!!!!!!
 
If I'm going to fork out £500 for a phone, I want it have the best hardware possible at that time, Apple are not providing this so I'll look elsewhere.

That's you.

In fairness, Apple have released a phone with just about the best hardware possible at the time. The 4S is very highly specced, I think people are forgetting that.
 
Macbook Pro Refresh - Same design, internal speedbump
iMac Refresh - Same design, internal speedbump
Macbook Air Refresh - Same design, internal speedbump
Mac Mini Refresh - Same design, internal speedbump
iPod Refresh - Same design, internal speedbump
iPhone Refresh - Same design, internal speedbump

What is Mr Ive working on...
 
That's you.

In fairness, Apple have released a phone with just about the best hardware possible at the time. The 4S is very highly specced, I think people are forgetting that.
Think what a lot of people are forgetting is that its also still bringing out centralised software features and getting more developers onboard to make use of the additional power...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Maybe it's just me but when spending upwards of £500 on a phone I would like it to look like a new model.

I would like people to go 'ooh' is that the new iPhone? Not just assume it's a 4 until I say 'well actually it's a 4S!'

Maybe I'm just shallower than a very shallow thing but that is how I feel!! :D

The improvements to the camera might make a noticeable difference in use but apart from that meh!
 
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