The AMD Driver Thread

pgi947 · 1 May 2015 at 07:40

It's not a general lack of communication, generally speaking they are good that way, far better then nvidia who only tend to speak out at press events and the likes. What do we have here, 3 amd reps? I think nvidia has one, who has a post count below 100.

The problem is they're far too specific with dates and when they miss this date it all go's quiet. They need to change 'coming next week' to 'coming by the end of next month'. At least that way if it really does arrive inside a week they'll look far from foolish while giving them a big enough window for an inevitable delay to be fixed.

Martini1991 · 1 May 2015 at 07:52

If AMD gave a within the month window, they'd still miss it.
Just like they did with this

pgi947 · 1 May 2015 at 10:05

Maybe should have said Q2 2015 then

Martini1991 · 1 May 2015 at 10:06

pgi947 said:
Maybe should have said Q2 2015 then

They gave a window like that for Bulldozer when they said 60-90 days, and they missed that.

Any window they give they'll miss

pete910 · 1 May 2015 at 10:41

TheRealDeal said:
Metro redux runs pretty well on AMD looking at this. No maxwell cards but gtx780ti is included.

http://www.techspot.com/review/878-metro-redux-benchmarks/page3.html

Here is dying Light and again the performance is strong.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/dying_light_vga_graphics_performance_review,8.html

Nvidia do have a history of being better on Open Gl but AMD are far from being bad.

Cough* cant use DX in linux cough*

But yes its fine in windows under DX

This with opengl

Yes that's a massive 13 fps in the corner, Same place under DX is 90+ with bells and whistles on too.

NV is has about the same matching performance across opengl/dx11

Now do you understand our frustration.

We know it's not the hardware it's the driver!

TheRealDeal · 1 May 2015 at 10:50

pete910 said:
Cough* cant use DX in linux cough*

But yes its fine in windows under DX

This with opengl

Yes that's a massive 13 fps in the corner, Same place under DX is 90+ with bells and whistles on too.

NV is has about the same matching performance across opengl/dx11

Now do you understand our frustration. We know it's not the hardware it's the driver!

From your post i just got OpenGl performance not which operating system. Open Gl can be used on Windows which is where i got confused with thinking these games were Open Gl. Hopefully Vulcan changes Amd's performance on linux for the people that want to use it as a gaming operating system. 13 fps is laughable to say the least.

shankly1985 · 1 May 2015 at 10:54

CaptainRAVE said:
There have been lots of games that have lacked crossfire support from day one. Having had AMD crossfire setups since the 4870X2 I have always loved he hardware, but the software support has been horrific. Rome 2 was the last game that i remember that had no working crossfire profile for nearly a week. There have also been plenty of games where they have broken crossfire support for older games with their newer drivers. Then you have games like FC3 that only worked smoothly with some tweaks from a third party software source. AMD driver support has been like this for as long as I have been with them and it is a real shame. At least with GTAV they had a working driver for release.

So because we had to tweak fc3 to make it run better that was AMDs fault? Not forgetting here nvidia users were also getting the same performance issues, but it was AMDs fault? No man the problem here is poor development from ubisoft.

Wasn't Rome 2 also updated around the same time for nvidia users to run on multi GPUs? Am sure it came in that low level directx driver..

pete910 · 1 May 2015 at 11:17

TheRealDeal said:
From your post i just got OpenGl performance not which operating system. Open Gl can be used on Windows which is where i got confused with thinking these games were Open Gl. Hopefully Vulcan changes Amd's performance on linux for the people that want to use it as a gaming operating system. 13 fps is laughable to say the least.

Apologies for that, Humbug mentioned ubuntu so assumed. Blame him

Thing is, their opengl performance actually matches and sometimes beats it in linux than windows, :eek:

Run the Valley benchmark in opengl and see...

Hoping Vulkan can swing it too, don't help the current set of games though

What worries me about Vulkan is AMD's lack of interest in it. They're shouting about DX12 but nada about Vulkan. odd seen as it's Mantle at the core.

shankly1985 · 1 May 2015 at 11:23

So OpenGL in windows performance is bad, but in Linux its fine?

Orangey · 1 May 2015 at 11:24

AFAIK Vulkan doesn't have any buzz/games, of course they're gonna big up their DX12 efforts, that's what everyone's excited about.

Martini1991 · 1 May 2015 at 11:26

shankly1985 said:
So OpenGL in windows performance is bad, but in Linux its fine?

No. That's not what was said.

shankly1985 · 1 May 2015 at 11:27

Martini1991 said:
No. That's not what was said.

"Thing is, their opengl performance actually matches and sometimes beats it in linux than windows"

Martini1991 · 1 May 2015 at 11:28

shankly1985 said:
"Thing is, their opengl performance actually matches and sometimes beats it in linux than windows"

Out of context.
Situational.

He's describing inconsistent performance.

He has poor performance in Metro under OpenGL on Linux.

I get the feeling you were trying to shift the blame onto MS rather than AMD.

shankly1985 · 1 May 2015 at 11:35

Martini1991 said:
Out of context.
Situational.

He's describing inconsistent performance.

He has poor performance in Metro under OpenGL on Linux.

I get the feeling you were trying to shift the blame onto MS rather than AMD.

No I cant ask a question? Lol Grow Up Martin! How would I know I dont use Linux.. It was a general question!

I was actually going to say why would you use OpenGL in Windows when you already have DirectX version!

Martini1991 · 1 May 2015 at 11:39

I don't use Linux either. No excuse for ignorance.
Think you're the last person who should be telling another to "grow up" too.

deuse · 1 May 2015 at 15:29

Martini1991 said:
I don't use Linux either. No excuse for ignorance.
Think you're the last person who should be telling another to "grow up" too.

This.

thebennyboy · 1 May 2015 at 15:41

Current AMD driver support....

pete910 · 1 May 2015 at 16:04

^^^ Me too!

shankly1985 said:
So OpenGL in windows performance is bad, but in Linux its fine?

No, their OpenGL performance across both is **** Nothing to do with Microsoft nor linux devs.

Like I said run the valley benchy in dx then opengl on a AMD card and you will see. Do the same on a NV card and their perf is not far off between dx/gl.

Orangey · 1 May 2015 at 17:20

Seems to me that open source drivers have the potential to be a lot better than they are, but how many GPU experts with spare time + inclination are out there? As every game/software has to have hacks written specifically for it in the driver.

LtMatt · 1 May 2015 at 18:34

People were complaining of poor Crossfire performance in the game Dying Light. The developer, Techland, have released a game patch which has corrected these performance issues. The patch should automatically download on Steam.

(Windows only)
- Fixed performance issues for Crossfire hardware setups

Source
http://steamcommunity.com/games/239140/announcements/detail/240158195511841438