** The AMD Navi Thread **

[LePhuronn]

Few people buy AMD GPU's, more people than not just want AMD to be cheap so nVidia lowers the price on their cards which they then go and buy.

AMD need to make some money too, just being there as a pricing check against nVidia has not worked for them in over a decade so thieve given up on it.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

 

[humbug]

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Pretty much yeah, i wouldn't sell any of my products much less than the competition at very low margins if i knew it made little if any difference to how many of those products i sell, i'd rather sell at near my competitors price.

 

[Poneros]

Sorry but a £500 gpu struggling to get 50fps at 1080p is not competently.

Spoiler: 2070

Looks good to me, for single-player anyway. Obviously wouldn't use it in MP.

 

[Chrisc]

All rumours, not official.

https://videocardz.com/81046/nvidia-geforce-rtx-20-super-series-to-launch-mid-july

This is more or less pulling a Polaris. Just like the 480 -> 580 jump from AMD, no more than 10% performance bump.

The term 'Super' seems so cheesy on a graphics card

 

[4K8KW10]

Few people buy AMD GPU's, more people than not just want AMD to be cheap so nVidia lowers the price on their cards which they then go and buy.

AMD need to make some money too, just being there as a pricing check against nVidia has not worked for them in over a decade so they've given up on it.

You are wrong here.
We have previously discussed with the others and it is clear that AMD put the same pricing on their videocards, while offering less framerates.

Here:

AMD released the Fury at the same RRP bit higher street prices than the 980ti despite being slower.
AMD released the 480 at the same price as the 1060 despite being slower.
AMD released Vega 64 as same price as the 1080 but slower.

The same with HD 3870, HD 4870 and HD 4890.

If the Radeons look cheaper, it's most probably because retailers drop the prices because the demand doesn't meet the supply.

 

[humbug]

Its quite simple guys, If by undercutting nVidia AMD sold more GPU's than nVidia they would sell cheaper with lower margins, they've tried that for a decade + to try and gain market share and all the while nVidia were the ones actually gaining market share often with more expensive slower cards.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome every time.

 

[4K8KW10]

The term 'Super' seems so cheesy on a graphics card

And shows lack of creative thinking. Their marketing department seems stupid.

 

[Chrisc]

And shows lack of creative thinking. Their marketing department seems stupid.

I hope AMD come back with a 'Super Duper' card

 

[humbug]

There will be no 2080ti competitor from AMD, people don't buy card's like that from AMD.

 

[StriderX]

Nvidia should just raise the flagship to £3000 to milk their hardcores honestly, they'll still buy it.

 

[4K8KW10]

There will be no 2080ti competitor from AMD, people don't buy card's like that from AMD.

Really?!
If there is a Radeon that is 20% faster than RTX 2080 Ti and for 800 pounds, what exactly will you stop from buying it right now?

 

[StriderX]

Really?!
If there is a Radeon that is 20% faster than RTX 2080 Ti and for 800 pounds, what exactly will you stop from buying ti right now?

There wont be, AMD dont have the ability to compete at that level without wasting effort in doing so, their first priority is capturing the market and that isn't pointlessly measuring ***** at the top.

It's been proven pretty much every single year that no matter what AMD do, the market buys Nvidia, even when they have the faster card.

 

[4K8KW10]

There wont be.

There will be. You will see next year

 

[humbug]

Really?!
If there is a Radeon that is 20% faster than RTX 2080 Ti and for 800 pounds, what exactly will you stop from buying it right now?

That's a dual GPU which relies on Cross Fire, it will never see the light in the gaming market.

 

[4K8KW10]

That's a dual GPU which relies on Cross Fire, it will never see the light in the gaming market.

No, I mean the big Navi 20.

But anyways:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-R...pect-to-game-on-it-anytime-soon.423036.0.html
AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo displaces the NVIDIA Titan RTX to become the "world's most powerful GPU", but don't expect to game on it anytime soon

 

[humbug]

No, I mean the big Navi 20.

But anyways:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-R...pect-to-game-on-it-anytime-soon.423036.0.html
AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo displaces the NVIDIA Titan RTX to become the "world's most powerful GPU", but don't expect to game on it anytime soon

AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo

 

[4K8KW10]

AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo

Navi 20 !

 

[humbug]

reading

 

[StriderX]

Honestly i think they should release the duo to market if only because it's something interesting. God knows what the new cross-speak between the cores does for latency though, i imagine the microstutter to be humorous.

 

[4K8KW10]

Its quite simple guys, If by undercutting nVidia AMD sold more GPU's than nVidia they would sell cheaper with lower margins, they've tried that for a decade + to try and gain market share and all the while nVidia were the ones actually gaining market share often with more expensive slower cards.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome every time.

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