** The AMD Navi Thread **

[Martini1991]

I've seen plenty of one dollar equals one pound conversions these past few years. We are paying more than the Americans, that's a fact.

I don't disagree there's some £1 = 1$. But you did $1 = £1.20.

 

[Zernath]

I don't disagree there's some £1 = 1$. But you did $1 = £1.20.

Sure, and I've seen that done as well. When they're already massively screwing you on the conversion, what's 20% more?

 

[Martini1991]

2070 and 2060 Supers being in the Navi 5700/XT reviews is going to make the Navi parts look worse.

Pretty sure the hierarchy will go

2070 Super
5700XT
2070
2060 Super
5700
2060.

 

[vapor matt]

it will go like this.

Radeon VII
2070 Super
5700XT
2070
2060 Super
5700
2060.

VII a better deal with 16g of HBM2 for 75 quid more.

 

[Martini1991]

it will go like this.

Radeon VII
2070 Super
5700XT
2070
2060 Super
5700
2060.

VII a better deal with 16g of HBM2 for 75 quid more.

If you're going to be like that you forgot the 2080 and 2080Ti.

 

[vapor matt]

If you're going to be like that you forgot the 2080 and 2080Ti.

the VII is only 3% behind the 2080 so closer to that than a 2070 super!

 

[bigmike20vt]

the VII is only 3% behind the 2080 so closer to that than a 2070 super!

But last I looked at a similar price to 2080 but without RTX features.
Imo for purely gamers it is a hard sell for the "new" AMD cards.
(Were some nice deals on the Vegas if you liked the game bundle a month or so ago)

 

[Martini1991]

the VII is only 3% behind the 2080 so closer to that than a 2070 super!

You're definitely getting commission on the Radeon VII ha.

 

[vapor matt]

But last I looked at a similar price to 2080 but without RTX features.
Imo for purely gamers it is a hard sell for the "new" AMD cards.
(Were some nice deals on the Vegas if you liked the game bundle a month or so ago)

I don't think the 2070 super is going to shine with RTX features enabled, it will slow to a crawl, I would sooner take the extra 8g of Vram the VII offers over rtx being good on the 2070 super. even the 2080ti dips into the 60fps with rtx, Rtx is a few gens away to see it shine.

 

[vapor matt]

You're definitely getting commission on the Radeon VII ha.

Good point, I should get a free one

 

[bigmike20vt]

I don't think the 2070 super is going to shine with RTX features enabled, it will slow to a crawl, I would sooner take the extra 8g of Vram the VII offers over rtx being good on the 2070 super. even the 2080ti dips into the 60fps with rtx, Rtx is a few gens away to see it shine.

Radeon vii is what... £650... So sure but you are not comparing like with like. Can get a 2080 for £600 . Sure the ram has use cases for some people but generally for gaming imo most would (and should) take the 2080 every time imo. (I am no NV fanboy, I would buy a sparkle S3 virge if it gave me better FPS or eye candy in my games
(I agree RTX is not really there yet which is why I got a 1080ti for £580 instead of 2080 for £670, most new features take a generation to really be useful, but better to have it than not imo if price is equivalent)

 

[vapor matt]

Radeon vii is what... £650... So sure but you are not comparing like with like. Can get a 2080 for £600 . Sure the ram has use cases for some people but generally for gaming imo most would (and should) take the 2080 every time imo. (I am no NV fanboy, I would buy a sparkle S3 virge if it gave me better FPS or eye candy in my games
(I agree RTX is not really there yet which is why I got a 1080ti for £580 instead of 2080 for £670, most new features take a generation to really be useful, but better to have it than not imo if price is equivalent)

you can get a VII for under 570 if you look, 599 here also. and the VII beats the 1080ti. the VII must have some kind of anti on it, its a great card for more than gaming.

 

[JediFragger]

you can get a VII for under 570 if you look, 599 here also. and the VII beats the 1080ti. the VII must have some kind of anti on it, its a great card for more than gaming.

Anti-Lag is coming to Vega cards afaik.

 

[Martini1991]

Sunday's going to be interesting.

Overclocking of the 2060 Super is looking like it's taking it to above stock 2070 levels.
Overclocking of the 2070 Super is looking like it's taking it to above stock 2080 levels.

Navi needs to be able to overclock well as well.

It's sad that given how crap all the price/performance of everything is that I'm hyped for overpriced Nvidia refreshes.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

It's sad that given how crap all the price/performance of everything is that I'm hyped for overpriced Nvidia refreshes.

Indeed. I think in fairness you're just the consumer at the end of Millions of marketing $.

 

[Brazo]

the VII is only 3% behind the 2080 so closer to that than a 2070 super!

Some way off a 2080

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-vii/28.html

 

[LeMson]

Navi seems dead/silly/stupid now, well played nvidia

 

[Grim5]

Navi seems dead/silly/stupid now, well played nvidia

Not if they drop the price, which they will have to.

The 5700xt needs to drop $50 to $100usd otherwise no one would buy it over the 2070 Super

 

[LeMson]

Not if they drop the price, which they will have to.

The 5700xt needs to drop $50 to $100usd otherwise no one would buy it over the 2070 Super

I really can't see them dropping prices this close to launch, a price war would be nice though

 

[Brazo]

Navi seems dead/silly/stupid now, well played nvidia

They’ll drop the price, they’ll have to as even the hardcore AMD fans won’t buy at current prices.