The AMD Navi Thread

stuman · 24 Jul 2019 at 14:35

are all the 5700's the same design at the moment?

I'm looking at a cooler swap anyway, so if they are all the same thing..... then I can save a few £ and just go for the cheapest.....?

Gibbo · 24 Jul 2019 at 14:46

stuman said:
are all the 5700's the same design at the moment?

I'm looking at a cooler swap anyway, so if they are all the same thing..... then I can save a few £ and just go for the cheapest.....?

Yes all AMD reference cards, all the same.

brightside229 · 24 Jul 2019 at 15:04

Looks like the EK block made a huuuge difference to temps, nearly halved core temp! Just a shame it did not allow for higher overclock. Hopefully my anniversary edition clocks better when it turns up tomorrow. Also surprising how little difference the overclock even made to fps

Freddie1980 · 24 Jul 2019 at 15:09

Martini1991 said:
While it's a good price for a 5700XT AE.
What about warranty etc?

I wouldn't trust anyone on Ebay with a brand new GPU purchase lol.

I wouldn't worry about to much, you have ebay and the paypal police on your side as well as AMD in the background who are good honouring warranties.

brightside229 said:
Looks like the EK block made a huuuge difference to temps, nearly halved core temp! Just a shame it did not allow for higher overclock. Hopefully my anniversary edition clocks better when it turns up tomorrow. Also surprising how little difference the overclock even made to fps

It's because the core is waiting for instructions to be delivered from the memory. Does the memory overclock at all?

stuman · 24 Jul 2019 at 15:09

Gibbo said:
Yes all AMD reference cards, all the same.

thanks.

have ordered some Harribo, for the free 5700....

4K8KW10 · 24 Jul 2019 at 15:12

stuman said:
are all the 5700's the same design at the moment?

I see one different - the ASRock Challenger D RX 5700 XT OC https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/asrock-challenger-d-rx-5700-xt-oc.b7196

KillBoY_UK · 24 Jul 2019 at 16:11

4K8KW10 said:
Wrong..

R9 285 2GB aka Tonga launched 2 Sep 2014 with launch price 250$.
R9 380 4GB aka Antigua was launched 18 June 2015 with launch price 200$.

I bought it several months later at that price!

They are the same GPU die AMD just rebranded down to the GPU die name , just like Hawwai (R290) and Grenada (R390), tweak names and 1+2gb extra ram does not make a new card really

4K8KW10 · 24 Jul 2019 at 17:40

KillBoY_UK said:
They are the same GPU die AMD just rebranded down to the GPU die name , just like Hawwai (R290) and Grenada (R390), tweak names and 1+2gb extra ram does not make a new card really

You are wrong. Nowhere I did argue that it's a new card :Laugh:
I will understand if you are trolling, though.

KillBoY_UK · 25 Jul 2019 at 09:33

4K8KW10 said:
You are wrong. Nowhere I did argue that it's a new card :Laugh:
I will understand if you are trolling, though.

Trolling what trolling?

If you weren't at least in part arguing there new cards why quote both the chip name as well as the card?

JCLDJB · 25 Jul 2019 at 10:29

Following reviews on how hot the RX5700XT Reference cards are..decided to wait for the Sapphire Nitro+ version.
This is the response I got from Sapphire directly:
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Dear Customer :
Thanks for your inquiry and your supporting to our product.

The Nitro series and Pulse series will launch around the mid. of August , please hold on for a while.
You can try to pre-order it via our authorized distributors during this period.
Thanks.
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Can and overclockers rep confirm when these will be available for pre-ordre/purchase via their store?
And how can I be informed when they do? Can you add me to a mailing list to be informed first thing, when they this specific AIB brand of card can be ordered?

Thanks

Gibbo · 25 Jul 2019 at 11:24

JCLDJB said:
Following reviews on how hot the RX5700XT Reference cards are..decided to wait for the Sapphire Nitro+ version.
This is the response I got from Sapphire directly:
-----
Dear Customer :
Thanks for your inquiry and your supporting to our product.

The Nitro series and Pulse series will launch around the mid. of August , please hold on for a while.
You can try to pre-order it via our authorized distributors during this period.
Thanks.
-----
Can and overclockers rep confirm when these will be available for pre-ordre/purchase via their store?
And how can I be informed when they do? Can you add me to a mailing list to be informed first thing, when they this specific AIB brand of card can be ordered?

Thanks

You need to keep checking our site, so far Sapphire have given us zero information regarding custom cooled versions, I suspect we'd be looking at mid-end August for pre-orders and stock on shelf around mid-end September.

nashathedog · 25 Jul 2019 at 11:57

Panos said:
R9 380 was already 3y old re-bagged card when came out

Maybe you're thinking of the Pitcairn chips that were used in the 7850, 7870, R7 265, R9 270, 270x, R7 370 & R9 370x, If my memory serves it was also the last graphics card that did not support Gaming with Freesync, Tonga was first used in the Radeon R9 285 it was a cutdown chip which was then used in the 380, the full fat Tonga chip was introduced in the 380x both the 380 & 380x replaced the non Freesync compatible Tahiti chips we'd seen in the 7950/7970 & 280/280x graphics cards.

Panos · 25 Jul 2019 at 11:59

nashathedog said:
Maybe you're thinking of the Pitcairn chips that where used in the 7850, 7870, R7 265, R9 270, 270x, R7 370 & R9 370x, If my memory serves it was also the last graphics card that did not support Gaming with Freesync, Tonga was first used in the Radeon R9 285 it was a cutdown chip which was then used in the 380, the full fat Tonga chip was introduced in the 380x both the 380 & 380x replaced the non Freesync compatible Tahiti chips we'd seen in the 7950/7970 & 280/280x graphics cards.

Yeah mea culpa. Thought of the 280...

stuman · 25 Jul 2019 at 18:27

5700 received.... Morpheus cooler installed. Waiting on new PSU, c’mon amazon, 3 stops away. Then let’s see what she can do!

EastCoastHandle · 25 Jul 2019 at 20:09

From Scott at AMD

My commitment to you and the community per my other thread is for our next gen high end GPU launch - we will provide multiple options and choices. With my good friend Frank on board now at AMD we will make sure to have options for you guys. The feedback has been great, and dare I say plentiful. We are an underdog, and we are hungry to do the right thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen...ure/euu7fgd?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

When asked when?

Sorry I hope you understand I can’t comment on this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen...ure/euujcs7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Looks like 5800 incoming...I do hope it's by next season though...

Spyhop · 25 Jul 2019 at 20:55

That's cool. They should just pay Sapphire some money and make the Sapphire NITRO heatsink/fan the official one on premium AMD cards.

4K8KW10 · 25 Jul 2019 at 21:15

Spyhop said:
That's cool. They should just pay Sapphire some money and make the Sapphire NITRO heatsink/fan the official one on premium AMD cards.

They just need a smart 3-axial or 2-axial fans-cooler design with more real metal. Copper pipes directly connecting the GPU, going straight to the metal backplate and sideplate, which itself makes contacts with the case's metal section...... resulting is the GPU heat spreading over large volume of metal.

brightside229 · 25 Jul 2019 at 22:15

So got my 5700 xt ae installed, booted up witcher 3. Full ultra without nvida hairworks enabled at 1080p with my ryzen 3800x every thing at stock i am getting between 89-98 ish average fps. I was expecting to see a consistant 100+ so slightly disapointed in that regard. Also temp of the card settled at 95 degrees stock!! ouch!! seems to idle at 46degrees.

TheRealDeal · 25 Jul 2019 at 22:28

brightside229 said:
So got my 5700 xt ae installed, booted up witcher 3. Full ultra without nvida hairworks enabled at 1080p with my ryzen 3800x every thing at stock i am getting between 89-98 ish average fps. I was expecting to see a consistant 100+ so slightly disapointed in that regard. Also temp of the card settled at 95 degrees stock!! ouch!! seems to idle at 46degrees.

Should be getting more according to this review.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-rx-5700-and-5700-xt-review,20.html

The settings used are at the top and seem to line up with what you used. They are getting around the same average as you at 1440p

4K8KW10 · 25 Jul 2019 at 22:33

brightside229 said:
So got my 5700 xt ae installed, booted up witcher 3. Full ultra without nvida hairworks enabled at 1080p with my ryzen 3800x every thing at stock i am getting between 89-98 ish average fps. I was expecting to see a consistant 100+ so slightly disapointed in that regard. Also temp of the card settled at 95 degrees stock!! ouch!! seems to idle at 46degrees.

This card is going to degrade relatively quickly.

But make sure your Radeon Settings look like this:

TheRealDeal said:
Should be getting more according to this review.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-rx-5700-and-5700-xt-review,20.html

The settings used are at the top and seem to line up with what you used. They are getting around the same average as you at 1440p

Guru3D used i9-9900K which is quite a bit faster, especially at Full HD.

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