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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

It's funny because (and I can't remember for the life of me where I saw/heard it) there's another rumour that Jack Huynh was the one who pulled the plug on big RDNA4 shortly after he was appointed in his position.

Rumour Mill indeed! Perhaps we'll get some leaks on who photocopied their arse at the AMD Xmas party soon (my money's on Frank Azor).

Nah, its Lisa, she's prim and proper, until she's drunk.....
 
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Theres another "rumour mill" post from some account on twitter claiming that the UDNA gpu isn't big enough to compete with the 5090.


This actually got posted as a source in some articles....


It really has go to the point now where anyone can make an account, spout some bs and some tech site desperate for clicks will pick up on it and post it like its somehow legit.

Then AMD are not returning to enthusiast segment with UDNA.
 
If its slated for 2026 which it apparently is, nvidia could have a ti or titan 5090 by that point.

Sure, this is assuming AMD do launch UDNA in a year or 18 months from now and Nvidia don't for 6 months or more after that.
 
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Wouldn't it sit slightly below the 4070ti-4080? going off AMD's RDNA 4.0 marketing, with FSR 4.0 looking DLSS 3.0 quality, and FSR frame gen looking at least on-par with DLSS on 7xxx series.. it could perform better however.

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This slide is about naming not performance.
 
+25% cost would be $625, i flipping hope not....

I hope its = to a 5070 Ti and $550, that would be great but it wont matter, here is why.

As a reminder the 4070 Ti was £300 to £400 more than the 7800 XT which is also a 16GB card, its reception was lukewarm, which to me is mental...

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Probably because AMD launched it late,the RTX4070 dropped down to about £50 more on offer.

But the RTX5070 looks really mediocre so far - it's a very easy target for AMD to beat IMHO.

Hopefully the RX9060XT is Navi 48 based,as it should easily beat the RTX5060TI too.

As does the 5070 Ti, it can't be more than 15% better because if it is then it will have a smaller gap to the 5080 than the 4070 Ti had to the 4080, same with the 5070 ecte...

The 5080 is 15% better than the 4080.

Nvidia no longer sell performance, they sell features, tech jurnoes constantly waxing lyrical about the added value of DLSS its how we have been conditioned, yes Nvidia 'encouraged' that but the point is they were being conditioned to normalise this and had no flipping clue they are being manipulated.

Its that same 'programming' that makes it near impossible for AMD to do anything right and they keep learning this, even the 4070 was still £600+ at the time of 7800 XT review with a sub £500 price, ignoring the 16% faster 12GB £400 more expensive 4070 Ti HUB spent most of the review hating on it for its stupid name, didn't say anything about its comparison to the 4070 Ti or the 6700 XT that it replaced by price bracket and instead compared it to used 6800 XT's on FlyBay as a price comparison, ridiculous and cynically disingenuous, and their review was one of the better ones....

What do we think this teaches AMD after taking the deserved 7900 XT criticism and actually trying to make up for it?
 
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I didn’t fall for the hate on the 7800xt and looked at performance vs the nearest competitor and thought it was bang on for price/performance. I looked back at a receipt from January 2021, for a quickly returned (due to buyers remorse) of a £1200 6900xt mba from a competitor and had a warm feeling of the £800 I saved by getting the same performance (within 2%) for £400 in the 7800xt 2.5 years later.

With the 9070 non xt it needs to be max £500 and offer at least 30% performance gain over the 7800xt to be a winner really.

Then 9070 XT needs to be max £599 to offer near XTX levels of raster performance.

:)

Same, with an easy daily overclock its basically a >4070 Ti, no one, not one of them made this point but 3 minutes of looking beyond all the garbage this was plainly obvious and with that at £400 less and with 4GB more VRam it wasn't a difficult choice.

The other thing is this, in RT the 4070 is only significantly faster if you turn the RT settings up so high it becomes unplayable on the 4070, if you use settings that the 4070 can manage guess what... with those same settings its little if any faster with RT than the 7800 XT.
Just another one of those things that i find incredibly misleading when they use these settings that make the 4070 unusable just to say its 35% faster than the 7800 XT, at 28 FPS.... if what you're looking for is 60 FPS both the 4070 and 7800 XT achieve that at those RT settings.

So how is the 4070 worth £100 more with all that in mind? Better image quality with DLSS than FSR..... Yes, you're right, you pay that then, i'm not.
 
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I did notice for the best part of 2024 the boilerplate content from them channels was parroted "but if you want RT then go for the nvidia card". Its just pure lazy verbatim.

Like i said if you want to use RT with 4070 at a level where its actually useable its not much better than the 7800 XT.
150 subscriber Youtube channels are capable of enough critical thinking to realise this and show you but those with millions of subscribers apparently aren't?

This is why AMD are infuriating. The card is clearly a 7700xt and 7800xt in name only. I have a 7800xt named as a 7900xt. If AMD went with 7700xt the journo's would have compared it to last gen mid range along with the 4070.

Yeah, this was idiotic and all it did was give the clowns ammunition.
 
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Which is the reason why AMD won’t be successful with such a monopoly that Nvidia commands.

The only way the 9070 series will disrupt the market and make people switch is ridiculously stupidly low prices vs Nvidia ie £399 for 9070 and £499 for the 9070XT which AMD marketing will never allow to happen.

We all want cheap GPU's but we also have to be reasonable and allow it to be worth it for AMD so they continue to fight.

The 7900 XT thing was stupid, they got a lot of flack for that and deservedly so, the 7800 XT to me looked like "yeah ok my bad, here is our apology" its a damned good GPU for a good price and they still got _____ for it only this time there was no real reason to give them _____ for it so like clowns they focused the hate on things that didn't matter a bugger to the product as a product.

When AMD try, especially when its obvious they are trying they need to get the right feedback for that or its all pointless, we are only hurting ourselves, it doesn't matter to AMD as much as some of these clowns seem to think it does, AMD can't make the stuff they do turn a healthy profit on fast enough, i have no doubt Radeon already looks like a problem to them that is easily solved.
 
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y'all wanna sod off posting about how clever you all were buying 7800xt's - i wanna know how much the bloody 9070's are, not how super duper chuffed someone is with their current card. thread should be locked till official info appears, it's just a bunch of hens clucking currently. :p

p.s. - i'm having a joke before someone gets all worked up.

You wish you had one :P
 
That pretty much just confirms that we will get no new information for at least 3 weeks. Everything that could be leaked has, both true and false, price somewhere between £300 and £900 performance somewhere between a 7700xt and a 5080 and release date somewhere between the 1st of March and the 1st of April.

And now we know we likely won't have confirmation of anything till the end of February. So honestly may as well lock this and walk away for a few weeks :P

MLID is that you???? :eek:
 
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Also.... AMD are about to launch a Laptop APU that's quicker than Intel's flagship Desktop GPU in gaming and quicker than a Desktop 4090 in ML, OEM's are salivating at it.

This is where AMD's priorities are now, taking Intel's final source of revenue.
 
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Hows the video encoding and decoding? Its the only thing intel gpus are sold for now

Its AV1 which on the AMD side is as good as anything.

This was the first video i recorded when i got the RX 7800 XT, it was at the default AV1 40 Gb/s, can go as high as 100 Gb/s.

 
AMD CEO confirms “Radeon 9070 will go on sale early March” and target volume portion of the enthusiast market


Ok so 4 or 5 weeks. a little sooner than expected, probably right after RTX 5070/Ti.
 
Yeah, It was one of the few really interesting bits of the ces presentation, along with the ai max (stupid name) chips.

Back in the day it was the deal between dell and intel that nearly drove amd out of the cpu space completely. And now it's amd with a deal

When even Dell can see the writing on the wall...

AMD are repeating the late 1990's early 2000's, for those who don't know from about the early 1990's AMD were knocking out X86 CPU's that were better than anything Intel had, just like today, by the early 2000's AMD had overtaken overall X86 marketshare, that is +50% total and at this point also accelerating rapidly.

What AMD had was better X86 products, what they didn't have was pots of cash, unlike Intel who used their vast accumulated wealth to buy AMD's marketshare, to such an extent AMD went from selling more CPU's than they could make to not even being able to give them away, they offered Dell 1 million CPU's for free, Dell turned them down citing they would lose money if they accepted them, that's when AMD learned Intel was paying people like Dell not to use AMD CPU's.
It got so bad AMD almost went bankrupt.

This time with AMD being older and wiser they realised they had to drain Intel of their accumulated wealth, which they have now done, Intel are skint, heavily in debt and making 0 money, infact at the last fanatical report Intel have lost a staggering $16.7 billion, which added to their spiralling debt.

This is personal for AMD.
 
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