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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

humbug said:
I'm running my GPU at touching distance of a 4070 Ti, its effectively a 16GB 4070 Ti in Raster and even for the same power consumption, £480.
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Well what does that tell you about the rumoured performance and price then? It is a joke!

Not that I would even take a 7900xtx over my 4070 Ti. But still.

Oh and I play most games 120-140w with my tuned profile.
 
TNA said:
Well what does that tell you about the rumoured performance and price then? It is a joke!

Not that I would even take a 7900xtx over my 4070 Ti. But still.

Oh and I play most games 120-140w with my tuned profile.
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Is the 4070 Ti, £800, still, a joke? 4080 level performance at half the money, you go in to the Intel GPU thread what you will find there is people hyping up Battlemage to exactly that level and going nutty at the idea of it, desperately wishing it in to being.

Only when its branded AMD can this be bad. that's the joke, and its a crap one, its not funny.
 
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JediFragger said:
Only place this will match a 4080 is in AMD's own slides, and we know how reliable they are ;)

I'd put money on it!
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It doesn't matter what it is, the point is to a very loud number of people, and they number not insignificantly, it can never be good, or even just OK, only ever bad, some people have an extreme xenophobic reaction to GPU's, its crazy...
 
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Sounds like it might be a decent card. Can't wait to see some reviews. :cool:

I love all the back and forth on what people think pricing should be. It'll be whatever it wants to be and you either buy it cause you like the product and it fits your needs, or you don't. Stop getting hung up on things you can't change.
:cry: I'm with @humbug here, the lets bash AMD brigade are out in force atm. It must be a slow news day in the Nvidia threads so people are jumping across to give us their daily 2p and remind us as to why AMD is bad m'kay! Maybes GPU forum should be sub-sectioned off to AMD, Intel and Nvidia and you can only be subscribed to one. lol.
 
humbug said:
Is the 4070 Ti, £800, still, a joke? 4080 level performance at half the money, you go in to the Intel GPU thread what you will find there is people hyping up Battlemage to exactly that level and going nutty at the idea of it, desperately wishing it in to being.

Only when its branded AMD can this be bad. that's the joke, and its a crap one, its not funny.
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Lol. Why are you asking such a stupid question mate?

We already know nvidia prices are a joke?
 
Firegod said:
Sounds like it might be a decent card. Can't wait to see some reviews. :cool:

I love all the back and forth on what people think pricing should be. It'll be whatever it wants to be and you either buy it cause you like the product and it fits your needs, or you don't. Stop getting hung up on things you can't change.
:cry: I'm with @humbug here, the lets bash AMD brigade are out in force atm. It must be a slow news day in the Nvidia threads so people are jumping across to give us their daily 2p and remind us as to why AMD is bad m'kay! Maybes GPU forum should be sub-sectioned off to AMD, Intel and Nvidia and you can only be subscribed to one. lol.
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Yeah, Xenophobic reactions, this forum is nothing, we get a very very slight spill over from Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, tech jurno forums... where a lot of people look like they belong in a padded cell, it actually is insane, very toxic tribalism (for lol...GPU's!) which exists on the AMD side too but Nvidia's tribe dwarfs it not just in size but also levels of crazy.

Its not healthy, its the real reason we have no competition.
 
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As always with amd now, my approach is wait until out in the wild and see what is what. They have shown absolutely nothing in recent years which have been true/lived up to the hype but sadly, it's the amd fanboys that don't do them any favours either by jumping on the hype train and providing even more steam only to end up going straight of the bridge and ending up in a fire ball :p I'm really hoping amd get their RT sorted though, the amount of RT and now PT titles shown there is insane! :D Also, they need to get their upscaling sorted big time too. Hopefully with their massive software investment they'll have something to compete with ray reconstruction, rtx hdr soon too.
 
I’ve made my guess based on previous real world AMD new gen GPU increases. 25% - 30% (at best) for rasterisation. This would put it between a 7900XT and a 4080 for raster. RT performance, well sorry all bets are off other than better than a 7900XT or 3080 but that’s a low bar. :cry:

I will be surprised if it genuinely meets the RT performance given in the leak.

Reality and AMD marketing are rarely in the same ball park these days. Unfortunately they seem to have taken a leaf out of Nvidia’s book on the levels of BS their marketing publishes.

This past few releases from both Nvidia and AMD have been utter jokes with pricing and their naming/renaming BS. I’m convinced that trend will continue as Nvidia keep bumping up their prices and AMD keep shooting themselves in the foot.
 
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JediFragger said:
This is going to be RX480 level of hype...
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It really isn’t and I think you are trying and failing to push a narrative nobody has remotely claimed. I have seen absolutely zero hype, in fact quite the opposite. I see people managing expectations that at only matching current gen 4080 means it better be well priced. As Poneros said above, a 7900 XTX only a fair bit cheaper than current 7900 XTX pricing, so hardly enticing. I believe it will be marginally better than a 7900 XT but with better RT. So how people and the rumours stating it’s 30% faster with improved RT constitutes “hype” is pure nonsense. It is a very conservative improvement where AMD barely match their current top end in raster.

What it won’t be is barely 15% faster than the existing 7800 XT, as you have claimed. All we need to see is how much AMD mess up the release and pricing.

My own take is meh, if slightly below 4080 performance almost 3 years later. The price better be good AMD. Does that sound like “hype”?
 
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As others have said, it'll need to be at least as fast as 7900XT and closer to £500 than £600 to be considered a win of any sort..... same perf* 2 years later (with 4GB less vRAM) for £40 less than current pricing isn't anything to shout about (let's just ignore the 7900XT launch price, that was always preposterous!)

*between 4070ti-S and 4080
 
TrojanWhore said:
As others have said, it'll need to be at least as fast as 7900XT and closer to £500 than £600 to be considered a win of any sort..... same perf* 2 years later (with 4GB less vRAM) for £40 less than current pricing isn't anything to shout about (let's just ignore the 7900XT launch price, that was always preposterous!)

*between 4070ti-S and 4080
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It'll have to be closer to £500, if it's 7900XT level performance you can pick one up on OCUK for £630 right now so a similar price is stupid.

Unless they try and say RT performance is worth it. I hope not.
 
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